Originally Posted by Deej

go back and read my statement...

let me elaborate on "I don't find America all that "civilized" - but China?"

America is fucked up. We have some of the worst racism out there. Because we have a mix of every kind of racism. Crime - Shit, we are in the top 5, I'm sure. But, things that go on in China are completely cruel and truly uncivilized. They are hiding their true nature surroundings for the sake of their worldly image. I read that the rivers are being died with color so they look normal. The clouds are being shot with dust and chemicals to both defeat rain but also their atrocious smog. Their orphanages, mostly consisting of female beaten and forgotten children, pushed aside and hidden during the travel time. This of course is all stuff I have read and researched. But I even heard boneprone talking about adopting a daughter from china and is was so hard right now for that very reason of it being hard to even deal with orphanages right now.

I am only saying their "civilized nature" on a whole compared to our on a whole is a couple notches down. I may be mistaken on my previous statement about why even having the olympics there, thats a bit harsh. But, my main point still stands.