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Originally Posted by Sands
1) Saying that a combat system that doesn't work with an MMA ruleset won't work in the real world seems to be a cop-out. The mere fact that there are rules undercuts much of any claim of the practicality of those practiced arts in the "streets".
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If a fighting style (Krav Maga) does not work in an enviroment with a fully resisting opponent with rules (MMA), how does it exactly work in an enviroment where there are no rules?
Just because in MMA I can't poke you in the eyes, grab your balls, kick you in the knee doesn't mean that in a self defense situation I won't. I have the training, and have used it against a fully resisting opponent in every class I take in BJJ sparring. When I have dominant position, I can do whatever I want. You keep practicing those eye pokes, and I'll keep sparring against partners as good or better than me to prepare me for the "streets".
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2) I do agree with you in that Krav Maga, with an increased popularity, has attracted many "I took a three-week certification course and am now opening a Krav Maga McDojo" instructors. However, I'm sure that if Munki does a little bit of research into the instructor of his respective academy, he'll be able to determine if said instructor is the "real deal", just as he would with a BJJ instructor.
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What is the real deal Krav Maga? Someone who's actually "Killed" someone with it?
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3) You're not always able to dictate the circumstances you find yourself in. Runnig is always good, but sometimes you can't run. Gi chokes won't help you in those situations.
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Gi chokes? That's a laugh. I'd rather rely on Gi Chokes than the Submachine Disarms Krav Maga "teaches".
Seriously, Gi chokes?
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Honestly, I'm not trying to put down BJJ, but when you say that BJJ's gravity is greater than Krav Maga's because of it's excellent utility in MMA matches, then I have a bone to pick. Krav Maga was developed for, and has been nurtured by combat. Actual, "holy shit this Arab dude is trying to knife me" combat. "I'm going to push my thumbs into this assailant's eyeballs" combat. Now, you and WarChild might be more sport-oriented in your martial training, and if Munki is looking for more sport than anything else, then BJJ would probably be a good choice for him.
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RBSD. Reality Based Self Defense. Biggest bounch of LARPers Live Action Role Players out there. How many eyeballs have you poked out? How many real knife disarms have you done? How many people have you killed?
Let me put this so you understand it. You are living in La La Land if you think you can disarm me armed with a gun or knife. Combat is chaotic, Krav Maga and RBSD attempt to teach you a response based on an action. If someone points a gun at me like this, I will twist their wrist like this. Sorry, real life doesn't work that way. The best self defense is not being there, or running. 9 times out of 10, you can do that, easily. Self awareness, and common sense are the best self defense you can have. No Krav Maga poke your eyeballs out while someone is stabbing you can come even close.
For one on one fighting, excercise, and anything else, BJJ is greater than Krav Maga any day. Krav Maga INTEGRATED BJJ into it's curriculum, NOT the other way round.
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But I do agree with your one of your last statements: "don't believe the hype." Munki, you should check out _both_ arts, and both academies. They should allow you to take an introductory class, and you should even ask to sit in on the advanced classes so you can see what's in store for you as you progress in each art. Ultimately, this will be the best way for you to pick one, and who knows... you might even opt to join both!
Respect.
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I'm more of a pragmatist. Sure go visit them both. Your type of personality ultimately will make the decision. It takes work and dedication to get better at BJJ. Blue Belt level is generally 2 years min. Which only means you know the basics.
I would put money that a 6 Month BJJ White Belt would beat the living crap out of a 6 month Krav Maga student with equal time spent training. Or for any amount of time training.