Originally Posted by Walrus

I'm a little confused as to how you thought Superterrrorizer was "hitting" his dogs when you are obviously familar with what "corrections" and prong collars are.

That said, did either of you try to convince your dog first before you coerced them into learning a new behavior? I'm not trying to step on either one of you's toes here... but I meet so many people who aren't even aware of Positive Reinforcement based dog training. Where you convince the dog to learn a new behavior or cue. This also makes them use their own head. It's the difference between pulling your child's arm really hard to get him to do something... as compared to offering them $10 dollars to rake the leaves. It's all about rewards. Dogs love to work.

Now I know the argument about prong collars. People will defend those things to death. They will say that they don't put any harm on the dog, and in fact it can actually massage the neck. Nobody really knows this for sure though. How can you ask the dog this? There's no way to get real feedback from them. And wouldn't you rather get the dog to "think" on his own anyway?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not against prong collars. The way I learned about dog training is that you start from teaching your dog postive reinforcement first... and then if it doesn't work.. then that is when you take a step down to more traditional methods such as the prong collar. Again, I'm not stepping on anyone's toes here... I just think a lot of people are highly unaware, or maybe misunderstand, these newer dog training methods that have become really popular in the past 10 years (for dogs).