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Old 07-08-2008, 02:49 AM  
hjnet
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Originally Posted by After Shock Media View Post
I am damn near sure you are 100% right on that. However as a paysite owner I want to check the numbers and the possible BS I hear about how it can and does still sell memberships. After all who else is giving all these new legal tubes free content to use in order to get some sign ups right?

So I figure it will be built to sell memberships but several areas with non sponsor provided content will be full of the standard cam and dating spots. Just so I can see the real differences in numbers and if there is enough justification in it all.

I personally do not see much issue between 4-5 15 second clips versus 1-2 minute continuous clips as long as they are done right. In theory the numbers should not be terribly different than what one would see at a MGP (hosting aside). I just really feel this will not be the case and I think it attracts even a more different type of consumer all together. They type that are pretty hellbent and trained on not paying for shit. Hell I do not even think they would earn that much on average at a cam site so I will be running a combo of revshare and PPS. Again I really think PPS will kill out revshare on that too.

Yes I am highly pessimistic about this but I will try hard with a goal of making it profitable. I also would love to be wrong.
Well, maybe you've already answered yourself by saying "Yes I am highly pessimistic about this but I will try hard with a goal of making it profitable. I also would love to be wrong."
Maybe many site owners think the same way when they give out content, and the fear of loosing affiliates is an more important argument to them than the fear of dropping conversion rates.
And there's some kind of group dynamic, it doesn't make any difference if sponsor A gives out content or not, conversion rates will drop anyway if sponsors B-Z give content out, sponsor A will only suffer from loosing affiliates to Sponsor B-Z

But to be back on topic again, I have to say that I think that legal tubes can make a profit, but I'd guess that ~70% is spent on bandwidth. And illegal tubes, with full size videos can be lucky if they break even IMHO
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