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Old 07-06-2008, 05:19 AM  
Odin
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Originally Posted by MaDalton View Post
it's called democracy - you can like it or not but at least here no one becomes president although he has less votes

and i would also say: the day china stops exporting the US is done
LOL. I am not going to jump here defending the US, but you have got to be fucking kidding if you think the EU is a true and good example of democracy. Tell me how many countries actually put the Lisbon Treaty to a referendum? And when it failed, what did every other nation do? Tell them to 'fix' the situation and 'push ahead' with the treaty. The leaders of the EU could not give a fuck about what you or any other citizen really wants, they are pursuing what they want to, without regard for what the majority might think along the way.

They are so far disconnected from the public, and from any real accountability that many EU citizens are really starting to get annoyed with them, and the rejection of the Lisbon treaty is more of a statement from the people of Ireland than perhaps any true concern or desire to changes to the policy itself. If they put it to vote elsewhere it would of failed too, for the same reasons, and that is why most nations didn't do it. The EU acts pretty un-democratically for an organization that proclaims to actually care of promote democracy. Turkey will be yet another example of that, despite what ANYONE says Turkey will be an EU member. Zanu-EU always gets its way.

Last edited by Odin; 07-06-2008 at 05:21 AM..
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