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Originally Posted by fluffygrrl
When exactly did you decide obedience = responsibility and frothing at the mouth = discourse ? Do you remember ?
They're so called laws, because they are, actually, in violation of the constitution. Whether a court agrees or not with this point is a practical test of whether the court comprehends the constitution, nothing else.
They may be real in the sense that misguided people everywhere might be currently applying them, as misguided people at all times have been known to do. That does not make them real in the sense of being actually legal.
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"obedience" ??? what are you talking about? we live in a nation of laws. its not about "obedience" its about operating within the law or at least being in a defensible position to protect yourself. at a minimum, its about understanding the law and the risks involved and accepting responsibilty for the choices you make.
who is "frothing at the mouth"?? i personally don't care who the government prosecutes. i do not, have not and will not operate in the or from the US. nothing justifies the risks.
lets do this. obviously you have a very strong grasp of the subject... begin by explaining how/why the "so called laws" are unconstitutional? when was this ruling made by a court?
again.. you are exactly the type of person i have been talking about this whole time.. the typical, anti-social, anti-authority pornographer who has decided that if a law exists that you don't agree with.. it must be somehow unconstitutional because you don't like it.
how is it unconstitutional? why is it that the constitutionality of obscenity laws aren't being challenged if they aren't constitutional? i dont get it. i really don't. maybe i am missing something.
but quite frankly when pornographers start talking about the law, it basically reads like this:
"blah blah blah... i'll do whatever the fuck i want because you have no right to tell me what to do"
"blah blah blah... try to control me in any way and its totally unconstitutional"
"fuck you if you don't like it, i don't care what you think"
well... guess what? the federal government can tear you apart because you guys, in all your moronic "rugged individualism" make for a very easy target. the christian right or anyone that looks at Max Hardcore shitting on a girl with pig tales, braces and a lollipop do not have that problem. they are motivated, they are organized and they have deep pockets and they are frothing at the mouth to prosecute the max hardcores of the nation as a stepping stone.
while you are blathering on about "rights" , "freedom" ancient greek attempts at democracy or anything else that are irrelevant to the actual laws on the books, people are thinking very hard about how to put you in jail. welcome to democracy... the people that actually organize and care can shape the laws in the communities in which they live. the people that have their heads up their ass, drunk on some bizarre and false sense of entitlement won't have a voice... because they sit around chanting "fuck the world" rather than actually doing something to protect their industry/business/livelihood.
porn will eventually die in the US for the most part. the public isn't going to defend porn. you aren't going to defend porn. pornographers aren't going to defend porn.
you just can't box with your arms at your side... no matter how many people in this biz seem to think they can.