Originally Posted by Paul Markham

No I don't think he has a right to abuse people on film because he does it to a paid model in a porn shoot. Do you think people should be allowed to abuse others if they pay?

Paul, I don't think it is right and never said it was, but these models damn well know what they are getting in for as BeaverBob stated and I fully agree with his statement. Whether I or you feel it is right is not the issue. If he operates within the boundaries of law, then he is entitled to produce whatever he wants...whether we like it or not. Please do not insinuate that I feel it is Ok to abuse models.


Please don't be a mouse; they will not go after the softer stuff. They will apply 2257 and other laws, but they will not try for softer stuff which will get thrown out when there are people like MH to score off.

First off Paul, I am not being a mouse, be rather gesturing that once this government gets an open doorway it could create a path of destruction in any direction they feel they can push. Maybe you feel like this government is not going to do anything like this, but I would not put anything past this government. You would have to live under the rule of the American Government to maybe understand this.

I don't think porn and Freedom of Speech gives him the right to do that.

What does porn have to do with him being able to do what he does?
Once again....if he operates within the boundaries of the law then there is not much you, I or anyone else can do about it. Until the laws change in this country, he or anyone else has the right to produce extreme content.