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Originally Posted by NikKay
I'm not saying I personally draw the line in any particular place. I think people should be policing themselves and that it's pretty obvious where the lines should be drawn if you have any consideration for others around you. I like some fairly extreme stuff more than I like the vanilla but I don't think people should be harming others when it's not entirely concensual. Do I think that makes it obscene? No. Do I think laws should exist to help people who are being victimized by selfish bastards? Yes. Would I rather people just stop being selfish bastards? Absolutely.
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id be willing to bet this "clear line" you speak of would be drawn at gay porn for nearly 75% of americans today. is that reasonable? the others around you argument is moot in this instance btw. this wasnt broadcast on cbs or projected on the side of a building forcing everyone to watch. people had to seek this content out. you like "fairly extreme stuff"? im sure some of the stuff you enjoy WOULD be considered obscene by a jury so are they wrong in judging your taste and right in punishing max for his? also, arent there are already laws on the books to protect people being victimized? if anything wasnt consensual, a different law could be used to protect the victim. consider this: would max of been prosecuted had there not been a camera there filming it? is filming it where he went wrong or the action itself? if its the action itself, why wasnt that pursued instead of a distribution of obscenity charge? this is the point many have been trying to make. if the camera wasnt there and what was done was within the law, why did filming it make it illegal? before you submit your reasoning, see if it also could be applyed,
IN THE EYES OF AN AVERAGE JUROR, to the "fairly extreme stuff" you enjoy. look, i dislike his stuff just as much as everyone here. unfortunately, most here dont realize that censoring what they would consider obscene is what religious fundamentalist do to "plain vanilla" . ggw is obscene in their eyes and trying to convince them that the line should be drawn where you want it is as pointless as this thread.
http://www.chattanoogan.com/articles/article_99657.asp