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Originally Posted by NikKay
Bumfights was a good example of a non-porn production that DID get it's producers in trouble. Here's the difference: In Jackass you have a group of friends causing physical harm to themselves and one another and (jointly) laughing heartily doing so. In Bumfights you have a group of friends basically preying on a troubled and downtrodden member of society.
I think the Max Hardcore stuff lines up with Bumfights more than it does with Jackass. However, I also think MH has a better defense than the BF guys because he can make the argument that his models are interested sexually in what he is doing to them. None of the bums brought into the legal issues with Bumfights said they enjoyed their performance and were happy they had done it.
I think combining violence with sex makes you a much bigger target than just producing something containing only violence or just producing something containing only sex. It simply makes *most* people nervous and uncomfortable so it's easier to prosecute and (attempt to) regulate.
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Great post and I do disagree with you about the sex making it more defensible. Putting porn into a film about abuse does not make it legal. The Freedom of Speech does not give you the right to assault and abuse people. Did the jury decide the porn was obscene or the abuse?
Who here would support anyone doing what he did if there was no porn attached or think he would not be prosecuted for doing it?
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Originally Posted by GatorB
where I live porn featuring a black man fucking a white chick would be obscene. In some areas just a girl giving a guy a blowjob would be obscene. So to say what you do in not "obscene" is your opinon. Unfortunately for you that doesn't count. The only opinions that count is the jury where a DA trying to make name for himself takes you to trial in some backwoods part of the country.
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Very true. And to continue to sell or produce in those areas is crass stupidity. Unless you think you should only follow the laws you want to follow.
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Originally Posted by Nikki_Licks
The government has been after Max Hardcore for a long time. He faired well with his first trial and now lost this one. I think even if he appeals this one and wins, they will still continue the witch hunt until they have destroyed him.
If you think about it, obscene is in the eye of the beholder. Hell, the government can't really define obscene. While some of us don't really care for his content, it is his right to produce it. Someone may find a solo masturbation scene or just softcore images to be obscene. Where will it end?
All in all, this chipping away at our rights is going to hurt everyone and it won't be long before they start going after the softer stuff......all they need is a doorway.
I hope he appeals and wins round two
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Yes he got off of the first one and continued doing it in the same country. Not the wisest move.
No I don't think he has a right to abuse people on film because he does it to a paid model in a porn shoot. Do you think people should be allowed to abuse others if they pay?
Please don't be a mouse, they will not go after the softer stuff. They will apply 2257 and other laws, but they will not try for softer stuff which will get thrown out when there are people like MH to score off.
Yes I think he might get off on appeal. Maybe not though and what ever he will be paying for it. He abuses models and hurts them,
I don't think porn and Freedom of Speech gives him the right to do that.
Maybe other do.