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Originally Posted by crockett
lol you are on some serious crack if you think our army is defeated in Iraq.. It's been mismanaged to hell but it is far from defeated.
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It's certainly not a defeat, but I don't see any progress for a long time. People die, things don't change. Sure, we can continue like this for another 2 years, another decade, but it doesn't change anything. I doubt they'll have a democracy there for the next century.
Iran is the same. You can remove the regime, you can defeat their army, but you can't change the minds of the people living there with a war.
The UAE have shown how muslim countries can develope and change without abandoning everything they believe in, their tradition, their religion, etc...economy changes things, not war.