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Old 06-04-2008, 05:21 PM  
wyldblyss
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Originally Posted by Robbie View Post
I'm not tight with Claire. I met her a couple of times at shows. She was a nice person. I agree that she shouldn't have attacked you. But at the same time I can see where she felt surrounded by a pack of wild animals. She's young and as the true trolls wanted...she got angry and irrational and mispoke in anger and haste. In that same thread, I saw her post that she mispoke to Evan, and that she wasn't that kind of person and apologized.
But for fucks sake...she had assholes making posts calling her a "two-bit escort". Bro, you know as well as I do that was nothing more than a deliberate play at pissing her off. And of course it did.
As for ADG...I said what I had to say.
And again...what good does any of this do anybody? Is this gonna make any of us any money at all?
No.
But by the time we are through we will have made damn sure that we have pissed somebody, somewhere off. And if there is one thing I know...it is that it never ceases to amaze me how many different people I end up making money with in ways that I didn't even know existed.
So just by answering this, I may be fucking myself out of a future deal with someone. Leaving money on the table.
And if I'm doing that by just calling for a little bit of reason from real people in this biz like you and ADG...then can you imagine what you may be doing by hounding a 21 year old girl on here?
That's all I'm saying.
10 years ago we called it "motherfucking" somebody in this business.
How many people are getting silently "motherfucked" by all the rudeness and crassness on here?
If you think Claire is a liar, and it's that important to you to prove it...then just ask the people who have actually met her and/or hired her. I have seen their posts in these kind of threads as well. But everybody seems to conveniently ignore that and continue on.
In the meantime, if I were just standing back and looking at this I would think that you and some others don't have much to do with your time.
And "NO" I am not saying that to you. What I'm saying is that is the impression it can give when you pursue this kind of triviality.
The girl got attacked by a group of guys on here. She got angry and lashed out. As far as what you did...yeah maybe it was just innocent curiosity. But fucking Stevie Wonder could see that she was getting attacked and when someone comes in questioning her honesty in that kind of atmosphere...well, I think you're smart enough to know how she would take that.
Damn. I don't want to argue with any of you. I don't want to defend Claire.
All I'm saying is I read this board and I hear all the craziness. And now... ADG can satisfy his unquenchable curiosity about Claire in person at Cybernet.
Maybe you should just talk to Claire and work out whatever issues came up by you entering an attack thread and her lashing out at you.
Or fuck it. Maybe y'all should just keep on attacking if that's what you want.
After all it's just a message board. But you're telling me you guys are professionals. Rise above this shit and act like it. I think it will serve you better than all this nonsense over a girl working events.
That's just my two cents and I have no pretense at being superior or smarter. I'm just saying that's my observation and thoughts.
And I mean no disrespect in any way. That's not my style.
Robbie, here is my take on this. Claire wants to be a "big girl". She supposedly has her own company, her own marketing team, her own staff, her own management, her own bodyguards, and that is all fine and dandy...be the "business women"...BUT that comes with a price, and that means that at all times she will be expected to act "all grown up". So the "she is young" won't work. If she is old enough to own her own company, old enough to do "naked housekeeping" and old enough to be a cam girl, then she is old enough to behave.

This is a tough industry, and there is no room in it for delicate flowers. You need a thick skin, you need to be able to handle the occasional "roasting" by those in the industry and if there is ONE thing I have learned in this industry is reputation is EVERYTHING. If people can't believe you will speak the truth all of the time, then you aren't going to last long because the industry will roast you alive.

Personally, I don't feel one way or another about the girl, but I do see her making huge mistakes and you have been in this industry long enough to know that iif the board is hating on a person this bad so early on, it is time to rethink the game plan.
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