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AJHall · 05-22-2008, 07:44 PM

I just saw this and figured I'd chime in.

I agree that there are only 3 options when it comes to systems that are robust and proven through use by A-tier cash programs and under heavy traffic and loads.

A CMS is like any other purchase. When looking at a product there will always be pros and cons and when choosing a product like this, I always tell people to evaluate based on their needs, not based on the needs of someone else or what works well for them. I tell people all the time during demo calls to go look at every system, eval all of them and see what's out there and buy the one that makes the most sense to you.

Most of our clients fall into 1 of these categories:
1) People either just starting sites or just starting to expand a cash program
2) People who have large programs and need something that can handle a ton of content and traffic as well as scale quickly and easily

3 out of 4 of our clients have owned another CMS.

The people in between are happy with what they have as it works well for them and their needs fall within the limitations of their current cms and they really have no idea what they're missing or how much better off they could be. In this case ignorance is bliss, and as the saying goes, "if it ain't broke..."

I have dealt with both John and Oystein in the past and both are good guys so I say this without taking anything away from them but part of what separates us from everyone else is that our sole focus is the cms and we're just beginning to expand and hire additional dedicated full time staff to further the development. 110% of our time, energy, thoughts and resources are going into this and this alone and it shows.

At this time we don't have multiple products, different departments or push more than 1 product or service so it's akin to going to a specialist if you have a problem. Sure, if your foot hurts you can go to any doctor but chances are you're better off going to the one who specializes in feet.

I don't want to sell my clients customizations or integrations or designs or web hosting or discounted combo deals, I want to sell them the best content management system possible at an affordable price.

A few tips for anyone who is considering buying a CMS:
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1) DO NOT look at features. DO, however, look and see if the system has the features YOU NEED and if not, find out how easily they can be added.
2) Make a list of systems and request demos of each of them
3) Find out if the system will allow you to grow your business and at what cost. Will there be fees for adding new sites, can you add more servers, etc.?
4) Don't be afraid to ask questions about things and find out how the system will help your business in ways other than just automating processes for you.
5) Find out what features are planned or upcoming and whether there will be any additional cost to you to have these added when they're available.
6) Most important - don't be afraid to talk to us. We're not used car salesman, won't pressure you to buy anything and the phone call is free. Same goes for the other guys as well so call them too.

Know what you're getting but more importantly, know what you're not getting.

In regards to the comparisons between the 3 most comparable systems:
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To clarify, there is no industry specific system that will provide more control or flexibility than Elevated X. The reason is that our design templates are entirely code-based and none of the templates are encoded, not even the portion of the templates that control the content itself. We purposely chose this in favor of any other method specifically for this reason.

Our system supports the use of multiple servers including remote content and load balanced servers by default and at no additional cost.

We also have multiple levels of caching and utilize both dynamic PHP and static HTML and are able to provide an unmatched level of performance without having to sacrifice the features required in order for a pay site owner to thrive in today's competetive market.

We have in demand features including automated tour management, limited trials, video transcoding and a FHG generator and everything our system does will easily integrate with NATS, MPA3 as well as any biller or custom affiliate software.

Cost:
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There seems to be a lot of mention of cost in these threads. I urge anyone in the market to also consider that we offer a monthly license for just $150 and I know some of the others offer similar plans so the fact that you can't afford to drop $4k in 1 shot is no excuse not to have a high end system running your sites.

My $.02 is just try not to settle. Obviously I always want to make a sale but I don't want an unhappy customer and the most important thing is that whatever you do decide to buy is something that you'll be happy with and that it's a purchase you can feel good about.

05-22-2008, 07:44 PM
AJHall Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 1,306	I just saw this and figured I'd chime in. I agree that there are only 3 options when it comes to systems that are robust and proven through use by A-tier cash programs and under heavy traffic and loads. A CMS is like any other purchase. When looking at a product there will always be pros and cons and when choosing a product like this, I always tell people to evaluate based on their needs, not based on the needs of someone else or what works well for them. I tell people all the time during demo calls to go look at every system, eval all of them and see what's out there and buy the one that makes the most sense to you. Most of our clients fall into 1 of these categories: 1) People either just starting sites or just starting to expand a cash program 2) People who have large programs and need something that can handle a ton of content and traffic as well as scale quickly and easily 3 out of 4 of our clients have owned another CMS. The people in between are happy with what they have as it works well for them and their needs fall within the limitations of their current cms and they really have no idea what they're missing or how much better off they could be. In this case ignorance is bliss, and as the saying goes, "if it ain't broke..." I have dealt with both John and Oystein in the past and both are good guys so I say this without taking anything away from them but part of what separates us from everyone else is that our sole focus is the cms and we're just beginning to expand and hire additional dedicated full time staff to further the development. 110% of our time, energy, thoughts and resources are going into this and this alone and it shows. At this time we don't have multiple products, different departments or push more than 1 product or service so it's akin to going to a specialist if you have a problem. Sure, if your foot hurts you can go to any doctor but chances are you're better off going to the one who specializes in feet. I don't want to sell my clients customizations or integrations or designs or web hosting or discounted combo deals, I want to sell them the best content management system possible at an affordable price. A few tips for anyone who is considering buying a CMS: ------------------------------------------------------------- 1) DO NOT look at features. DO, however, look and see if the system has the features YOU NEED and if not, find out how easily they can be added. 2) Make a list of systems and request demos of each of them 3) Find out if the system will allow you to grow your business and at what cost. Will there be fees for adding new sites, can you add more servers, etc.? 4) Don't be afraid to ask questions about things and find out how the system will help your business in ways other than just automating processes for you. 5) Find out what features are planned or upcoming and whether there will be any additional cost to you to have these added when they're available. 6) Most important - don't be afraid to talk to us. We're not used car salesman, won't pressure you to buy anything and the phone call is free. Same goes for the other guys as well so call them too. Know what you're getting but more importantly, know what you're not getting. In regards to the comparisons between the 3 most comparable systems: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- To clarify, there is no industry specific system that will provide more control or flexibility than Elevated X. The reason is that our design templates are entirely code-based and none of the templates are encoded, not even the portion of the templates that control the content itself. We purposely chose this in favor of any other method specifically for this reason. Our system supports the use of multiple servers including remote content and load balanced servers by default and at no additional cost. We also have multiple levels of caching and utilize both dynamic PHP and static HTML and are able to provide an unmatched level of performance without having to sacrifice the features required in order for a pay site owner to thrive in today's competetive market. We have in demand features including automated tour management, limited trials, video transcoding and a FHG generator and everything our system does will easily integrate with NATS, MPA3 as well as any biller or custom affiliate software. Cost: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- There seems to be a lot of mention of cost in these threads. I urge anyone in the market to also consider that we offer a monthly license for just $150 and I know some of the others offer similar plans so the fact that you can't afford to drop $4k in 1 shot is no excuse not to have a high end system running your sites. My $.02 is just try not to settle. Obviously I always want to make a sale but I don't want an unhappy customer and the most important thing is that whatever you do decide to buy is something that you'll be happy with and that it's a purchase you can feel good about. __________________ Owner, Elevated X - The 4 Time Award Winning Adult CMS Software Company Used by More Than 2000 Adult Sites.