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Originally Posted by kane
To me the welfare thing is pretty simple. I understand that shit happens and guys are assholes and leave girls after they get them pregnant or walk out on their families and the women need some help and welfare can provide that help, but I think it should be kind of like unemployment where it is a temporary fix. What I think should happen is p this: If you are on welfare you should be required to be on birth control. You get the shot of the implant (no pills or patches because you could skip or miss them) No proof from the doc that you are on birth control, no check. You can feel free to have as many kids as you want, when you get off of welfare. I also think there should be a max amount of time you should be allowed to be on welfare and that if you are on it you should be required to be getting some kind of job training/education. I think people would rather pay for someone to go to a couple of years of college or a trade school and learn to do something while on on welfare then get a good job and make something of themselves and provide a good life for the kid, than just let the mom collect checks for 18 years and watch TV all day long.
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this is sort of odd... this idea that society owes someone assistance, yet they are not obligated to society to not abuse it or to act ethically and responsibly. i kinda agree with you... if someone wants to be on public assistance for any reason other than being the victim of an act of god, it should come with some significant strings attached. someone gets struck by lightening, house gets burned down in a freak accident.. by all means, i think we should help. they keep cranking out kids as if they're hamsters... hm... maybe they shouldn't be allowed to be parents to begin with. why have we decided as a society that you can be dead broke, no education, have 5 kids and have a target goal of 10?
sadly, the very idea of welfare is predicated on the notion that there is a victim (real or perceived) ... this makes it hard to make the argument that this person should endure additional hardships to receive needed financial assistance, although it would certainly reduce the occurrences. at some point, society as a whole will need to stop the PC BS and start calling it like it is, or there is no real hope for any improvement until things get much worse.
but i think there are quite a few restrictions on welfare now. Clinton signed The Welfare Reform Act which put a lot of limitations and restrictions on how a person can claim benefits.
i can't believe a guy can make a tv show (Maury) based on women having no idea who the father is of their kid... and even to the point that they are accusing a 1/2 dozen or more guys. i think they world was a better place when a woman was considered a whore for having a kid out of wedlock. not saying its ideal... but on the whole, families have eroded along with traditional family values. eroded to the point that kids are parenting themselves for the most part.