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Originally Posted by rogerrabbit00
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Cams code? Huh?
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Originally Posted by Tempest
IMO it's the studio's themselves as well as having far too many foreign girls that's truly killing cam sites. Cams are supposed to be about making a personal connection with the girls and that part of it is being lost which means fewer and fewers guys will stick around.
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Most studios are themselves foreign so it's expected most of their models are foreign

I have gotten stories of a number of marriages between members in the West and models in the East so I think the personal connection is still there sometimes, but I think you do have a valid point.
We are coming across a lot of "flop house" cam studios. Asian and Central America studios have a lot of models living in small rooms with a webcam and a computer. The feed quality is usually awful and the models are kind of trashy... to be kind

We are working on getting more information about how they operate, but it seems they get not more than a few dollars a day and room and board. Most of these models keep their prices as low as the sites allow.
There are many well run studios in Russia, Romania and Czech Republic.
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Originally Posted by Kevsh
As Ethersync pointed out, talking directly with studios and models is the way to get the real inside info on what's going on. I have my own contacts in this area and hear many of the same things he shared (and some things I was totally unaware of).
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Every studio we have talked with has said they feel that sites do not treat them well. Well run studios that would be loyal and valuable partners for any site feel like they are getting the shaft constantly. They feel their concerns are never addressed by sites. Part of the problem may be the differences in languages, but don't these big sites earn enough to hire a couple support people that can speak Russian, Spanish, etc?
It seems that most cam sites are started by people with a background in affiliate marketing so they work hard to keep their affiliates happy, but don't even know how to begin to relate to their models and studios.
A few more bits of information that came in...
1. Multiple studios have reported to us that they only keep models on ImLive because of how quickly models get paid. Payments go out 1 day after the period ends we are told and studios want the money now rather than wait a week or more for payments even if they would get more money. They also love that ImLive payments arrive like clockwork. I guess the lesson to be learned for startup cam sites is to pay models quickly and always exactly on time
ImLive is charging European members in Euros now [1 Euro = 1 credit. 1 Dollar = 1 credit.], but still paying models in Dollars. Studios are pissed about this because ImLive is taking more profit even after just cutting models percentage again. Are affilliates with revshare deals getting cheated too?
2. Webcams also has a good reputation for payments. They pay weekly and the delay is 5 or 6 days. Payments are not as reliable as ImLive according to our data, but most are satisfied with this.
3. European sites that bill and payout webmaster and models in Euros have a big opportunity to take a large chunk of market share now with the depressed dollar, but our early data indicates they are not as adept as their US competition in a number of areas. Their sites are often more difficult to navigate and make what should be simple tasks very complex. Also, most of them pay monthly and often with long delays. One site we heard about pays out every 2 months with long delay. They all seem to pay affiliates revshare deals only. We have yet to see any that offer PPS. We have found a couple that are trying to charge affiliates money for white label sites. One in particular wants several thousand dollars. Many US based sites offer this now for free. Also European sites often charge very little for each minute a member is in private so while a model will spend more time in private she earns considerably less for her time. A large site we are monitoring very closely now charges much higher rates to members and gets a good amount of traffic. I'm not going to get into the details here until we have more data

One plus about European sites is I hear many do not care about model releases and their ID requirements are generally very lax compared to US sites.
4. A lot of US cam sites who outsource their programming and design end up getting their sites made by the same people that made their competitors sites
5. A large U.K based multi-national telecom company tried to get into adult videochat and got their ass handed to them
6. Video chat in Ukraine is very illegal. It's very dangerous to run a studio from this country.
I have a lot more data coming in, but it's not all organized and translated yet. It's amazing how much information comes from just a little poking around.......
