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Old 04-08-2008, 09:55 AM  
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My YouPorn Discussion with VideoBox

TarPy (12:33 PM) :
http://youporn.com/watch/37997 - 388K views
http://youporn.com/watch/42166 - 579K views
http://youporn.com/watch/29166 - 296K views
http://youporn.com/watch/149061 - 150K views...


BTW, there are 4 infringements with your advertisement links on it. And over 1.1million associated viewings.

So, you porn didn't clean up anything

alisonVB (12:34 PM) :
hi
TarPy (12:34 PM) :
What's up
alisonVB (12:34 PM) :
ah, not much.
alisonVB (12:34 PM) :
was that an email to someone in particular?
TarPy (12:36 PM) :
No, just pointing out that weeks after the show, the claim that "YouPorn has cleaned up" is still totally bogus.
alisonVB (12:36 PM) :
gotcha.
TarPy (12:37 PM) :
and that a source of your ad traffic is pages with direct infringement, and you may want to consult your affiliate about that behavior
alisonVB (12:37 PM) :
we don't advertise with them
TarPy (12:38 PM) :
Your ad is right on those pages.
alisonVB (12:38 PM) :
our ad? or our link?
TarPy (12:40 PM) :
A link to your products on a page would constitute an advertisement, would it not?

And I referred to them as an affiliate, with an account that you pay out on, correct?

So it's fair to say you compesate them for the behavior of placing that link on their pages, no?

And those pages frequently contain infringements, and the specific pages I just sent you all contain both your links and infringement.. Links you compesate them for....


TarPy (12:40 PM) :
Whatever noun you'd like to call that placement.
alisonVB (12:41 PM) :
i'm just making sure i understand what you're saying, chief.
alisonVB (12:41 PM) :
you're an intense dude
TarPy (12:41 PM) :
in this case, you're allowing Theft of SpunkyCash, and Kate's Playground, to be a source of traffic for video box.

That's what I'm saying.
alisonVB (12:41 PM) :
yes, they're our affiliate
alisonVB (12:41 PM) :
i see
TarPy (12:41 PM) :
And yes they are infringing.
TarPy (12:41 PM) :
And yes, you've been notified of that behavior.
alisonVB (12:41 PM) :
i never said they weren't
alisonVB (12:42 PM) :
but it's not me who needs to be notified
TarPy (12:42 PM) :
So, I'd advise in your case, that you should at very minimum send them a letter, requesting that your links be removed from the links I just sent you, or optimally, that the affiliate review their content for theft of SpunkyCash, and the Site, Kate'sPlayground.com because there are 50 other full length videos I didn't send you links for.
TarPy (12:43 PM) :
And if you don't, some courts could see that you are complicit in the behavior, and compensate it knowing clearly it's origins.
alisonVB (12:43 PM) :
ok, look, you are talking to the wrong person
TarPy (12:43 PM) :
And that in a way of looking at things, you pay youporn to infringe your competition's content to create traffic to video box.
TarPy (12:44 PM) :
So, That's just a way of looking at things.
TarPy (12:44 PM) :
And this is just what the courts term "Constructive legal notice"
alisonVB (12:44 PM) :
not really
alisonVB (12:44 PM) :
i'm not an officer of the company
alisonVB (12:44 PM) :
i have no power either way
alisonVB (12:44 PM) :
IMing me some crazy threats does not constitute any notice
TarPy (12:44 PM) :
If I'm talking to the wrong person, it's your duty to cut, paste, print and bring it to their desk.
alisonVB (12:45 PM) :
i don't believe so
TarPy (12:45 PM) :
I'm not threatening anything. I'm simply saying that an affiliate is infringing content belonging to SpukyCash, and your response is surprising.
TarPy (12:46 PM) :
I just wanted record that I both told you what was up, and that you chose not to acknowledge any responsibility for it, and continued to pay that affiliate. Later on someone will probably ask you what action you took regarding this complaint. I hope you have more to say than "Nothing"
alisonVB (12:46 PM) :
if you want to notify videobox of something, do it through your lawyer
alisonVB (12:47 PM) :
i'm not personally trying to have an issue with you, but you are being extremely aggressive toward me as a person and i don't appreciate it.
alisonVB (12:47 PM) :
so please, if you have something to say that involves the legality of something the company is doing, direct it through the proper channels
TarPy (12:48 PM) :
http://katesplayground.com/2257.html There's the link to the custodian of records if there's anyone at your company who wants to follow this up with the owners of the copyright.
TarPy (12:48 PM) :
A court would see this as a proper channel.
TarPy (12:48 PM) :
You work there, you know the address of the right people, you can cut and paste.
alisonVB (12:48 PM) :
ok, look. i'm not sure why you're directing your hostility at me, but i'm done.
alisonVB (12:49 PM) :
please don't IM me again
TarPy (12:49 PM) :
I'm not being hostile towards you, I asked you to print this convorsation, and go sit it on the right person's desk. But your company assured me that You Porn had cleaned up it's act, and I was just letting you know that you are ill informed.
TarPy (12:50 PM) :
Just asked for 5 minutes of your day, to help out someone who's being stolen from, really.


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