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Originally Posted by SHANESWORLD
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BD and some others here were and are friends/acquaintances with Donny and I would expect nothing less than to have strong feelings about this issue. However, he is now the enemy in my book. Although I will not attack him directly, he is calling unsolicited attention to the industry for his own gain, and that I do not support or appreciate.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and with heated debate sometimes comes personal attack. Being able to separate the two can lend to great discussion on the issues.
That is my general point.
Airek
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good points airek. i think one of the real weak points in donny's whole position is that he's trying attack and not attack the industry at the same time. what he ends up doing is attacking it anyway but says he's not so that he can keep some credibility to his points get addressed within the industry.
donny and craig both tried to exempt monique from a lot of their criticisms of the industry as a whole. donny allows exceptions to be made to his rules of the industry that he claims he was once 'foremost' in.
donnie then goes on to describe some not so pleasant situations in which he himself created or was responsible for. situations that he admitted do not happen under normal circumstances or on a regular basis.
the guy plays both sides of the fence. he has little credibility. his rules are filled with exception. on top of it all, donny admits that he 'exploited' women when he worked in the industry.
airek, i will say, and i know that you would also say for yourself, that i do not feel guilty for exploiting women because i do not exploit women. now why is a guy who exploited women, criticizing the industry that you and i are a part of? should the woman exploiter tell us about how what we are doing is wrong, when he is actually referring to the things he did wrong himself?
born to a woman, who claimed she was a virgin, over two thousand years ago, craig's hero claimed he was the only son of the almighty god of the entire universe which he made himself in the time it takes the earth to make seven rotations, even though the earth hadn't yet existed until he was done and rested on that last day. craig's buddy healed sick people and he helped the poor and walked around proclaiming himself the savior of the human race. thousands of years went by with wars being fought and story books being written by perverts and rapists who wrote a book as if they were a god. they drank out of lead cups and talked about places that we now know don't even exist. they had guys killed who made telescopes and disagreed with their bullshit ideas that were all proven wrong. in between young boys these priests with bloody hands and cocks wrote that nice little story book the bible, not god or a delusional jew named jesus. donny and craig feel that they can use a story book (with that kind of history) to take a moral high ground over you or i.
i hope they realize that it's them who bought into the real bullshit fantasy that didn't exist.