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the biggest problem i saw with the debate up until the 6th clip was that while Ron and Monique were arguing the legitimacy of the industry, donnie kept talking about himself and craig kept trying to make the point that the industry had a right to exist all the while promoting his product. what are they debating? ron definitely hit on that early.
to donnie, i would say that wasn't very jesus-like. that's called being a fucking drama queen.
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