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This thread has evolved into a very fair minded and temperate discussion about the difference between conservatives and liberals. I'd rather bash republicans

Liberals aren't anti-business, they're PRO business just like any other rational person. The difference is that they want the workers to benefit from the commerce they help make possible as well as the business owners.

A conservative will point to things such as the minimum wage law and scream that it's putting them out of business and nobody is going to have jobs and the economy will die. A liberal will point out that when everybody has a decent wage, more products overall will be purchased and the economy will prosper, which is absolutely true. A conservative will cry about lazy union thugs bankrupting them, a liberal will tell you to go read Upton Sinclair and learn what it was like when child labor and 18 hour workdays for pennies were the norm.

The thing that gets me is that a LARGE % of conservatives are themselves poor people, and soooo stupid that they're proud of themselves for aiding and abetting the very people and causes that want to grind them even further into the dirt.

The simple answer is rarely the right answer in international relations or on issues as staggeringly complex as the US economy, and conservatives are thriving by selling simple answers to simple people.

also, Oprah is NOT a liberal commentator. Neither is Sally Jesse or anyone like her. Paul Begala is a liberal commentator, Bill Press is a liberal commentator. What we need are commentators who use the same tactics as the conservatives. If someone goes off on a nationalist tirade, call him a fascist. If someone bitches about immigrants, ask him how the hell his ancestors got here. Call a spade a spade and quit letting the Republicans take the cheap shots unopposed.