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Originally Posted by Snake Doctor
It is 100% true and completely fair.
Every chance she gets she spouts out her crap about how he leaves 15 million people uncovered with his plan.
The difference between their plans is that she FORCES everyone to buy insurance whether they want it or not.
He makes it cheaper and makes sure that nobody can be excluded or charged more because of a health problem.
The 15 million is an estimate done by a think tank...based on their logic 15 million people will choose to not buy insurance even if it's affordable.
Hillary's plan FORCES people to buy insurance, and she has said she's willing to garnish their wages and charge them a fine for not buying a policy.
Now after she's spouted out the half truth about him "leaving 15 million people out" how is it not fair for him to point out that her plan FORCES people to buy a policy?
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She also points out his will leave 15 million out and yet still forces a mandate on parents of children that FORCES people to buy insurance and will have no choice but to also put in fines and garnish wages to enforce his policy. And these people are FORCED to pay costs estimated to be $1700 more a year than on Hillary's plan. Good luck for a family of 3 making $30k a year under Obama.
The reality is his plan because it leaves people out does not come close to lowering the cost of insurance to people therefor makes it affordable to some but not to all. And since he makes no amends for subsidies and programs to pay that difference for those unable to afford it, the reality is the number left out will rise year after year as costs continue to rise and those who are uninsured are still sick and continue to drain the system. As long as you have uninsured, you will have a continuous rise in costs making the gap and definition of affordable further and further from those its supposed to protect.
On health care I truly feel Obama pussied out and tried to take the safe route.
On foreign relations I think he is far too green and is making a lot of promises he won't be able to keep. Its irresponsible to claim you'll have all troops out in a year when you have no idea what the intelligence is saying is feasible and safe. Maybe its possible, but if it isn't is he going to force everyone out to keep his word, or is going to break his promise right away because its the safe and smart thing to do?
There is no doubt there is no job that prepares you for the full scope of the presidency, but there are lots of jobs that help to make the transition a lot smoother and more effective for the greater good of the nation. Spending time doing foreign missions and serving on the committees would have given him a far greater view and knowledge on the issues and made his decisions more informed and less reckless.
On experience we disagree and thats fine. Too me when he is debates and substance comes up he stumbles and rambles and gets unclear on the issues and to me that shows that he is not experienced enough on the issues to be confident and know what he is talking about. Thats how I see it. You see it differently. Oh well.
We'll see how it plays out in the next little while and if he gets the nomination how he reacts to the right machine grinding on him as well as how the Democratic base reacts to him. There is a very large swell of Clinton supporters who are part of the true dem base that are getting pretty ticked with Obama and starting to talk of voting McCain.
When you lose even part of the democratic base plus now have to fight for the independents who helped you in the primary but could just as easily head home to the right, that makes things interesting to say the least. Factor in the fact Obama's campaign is so against reinstating the Florida vote in any shape even at half the delegates being awarded and he has just alienated a very very important state that is always a toss up for each party. Michigan isn't thrilled.
Missouri a swing state in which he won but lost 110 of the 115 counties and won the city states with the large black population and votes and you got another swing state in heavy play.
I truly fear that with Obama the Dems may lose this election as the states he won were largely red states and with no caucuses to lean on in the GE it could get extremely tight. He's going to have to make significant inroads with the base and I am not sure he can.
Recent polls show he has peaked and slipped in national ratings vs Clinton and McCain. His campaign is a tough one to start another uptrend of momentum with.
I hope I am wrong as the last thing I want is the Republicans in the white house come Jan. For the war ending if not anything else.