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Old 02-23-2008, 07:19 PM  
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Originally Posted by tony404 View Post
Actually what they sent out was true.How is that wrong?
How was what he said true Tony? At best half truth on health care.



Using the same shady tactics used in 93 by the republicans to defeat universal health care. Claiming that no matter how poor you are you're going to pony up your cash for health care no matter if you can afford it or not. Doesn't mention the fact that with universal health care costs come down dramatically for coverage. Doesn't point out if you're not earning enough you qualify for tax breaks and subsidies to help pay for your insurance costs and that you will not be raked over the coals like he is claiming.

And the sad part about this is now no matter what Obama will never be able to obtain universal health care in his political career now that he has used this type of ad to discredit her plan as if he even tries to sniff at it, the republicans will bring his own words and ads back on him.

The reality and truth of the matter is under his plan he will be making the poor people poorer. His plan does not mandate coverage which means his plan will cost more per person for coverage. He is mandating all children have to be covered so their parents are paying higher costs due to non universal coverage but being forced to cover their children.

According to Jonathan Gruber of M.I.T., one of America?s leading health care economists says Obama's plan, would cover 23 million of those currently uninsured, at a taxpayer cost of $102 billion per year. An otherwise identical plan with mandates would cover 45 million of the uninsured ? essentially everyone ? at a taxpayer cost of $124 billion. Over all, the Obama-type plan would cost $4,400 per newly insured person, the Clinton-type plan only $2,700."

And yet Obama offers less subsidies and tax breaks to offer the lower class families help to pay for their insurance than Clinton does with her plan even though his is going to set back the families $1700 more a year per person.


As for the NAFTA mailers he is circulating he says she was a boon for NAFTA and use it as a quote from a newsweek article that was later retracted by the magazine as not being accurate.


So when you play this game, and use the exact same tactics and use the same ads as the Republicans used in 93 of Harry and Louise to smear and derail her health care plan in 93 and again today your showing your absolutely no different than any politician that came before him even though he claims to be holier than thou, and above doing any such things going forward. He is the candidate to change the way politics is done. Ummmmm yeah ok then.

Basically by doing these mailers he showed his true colors as being the same, but he also made a huge blow to the Democratic parties future ability to try and get universal health care for Americans. Super job Barrack!
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