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Tom_PM · 02-23-2008, 11:30 AM

I'm sure it's a waste of time to point out that it's supposed supporters, not Clinton herself.. But be that as it may..

The thing is that if this group is being formed, and even if we go on the limb before the fact and say that they will only support one candidate.. we are left with the undeniable fact that the first person to *use* the group is...... drum roll... Obama. Thats already laid out in the email itself, it's not maybe, or might, or looks like, or sources say.. it's right there in your inbox. They're using it to get support and shine negative light on Clinton.

Now if you dont see the hypocrisy of it all, then I would humbly suggest that maybe you should consider your own objectivity. I see some people get it, supporters of Obama's, supporters of Clinton, McCain, Paul, whoever. Thats healthy!

But you can not get up there and talk about being against politics as usual when your campaign and own record show politics as usual. It's not smart to continue on with playing the voters for stupid chumps. He'll swift boat himself and that'd be a disaster for the general election.

His "present" vote on the bill that would have banned adult stores near schools was politics as usual. His reasoning was perfect; local zoning laws are the proper place to limit or restrict what type of businesses or residences can be erected in a given area. Thats why normally a person would vote "No" on a bill. But he voted "present" and here's why.. Imagine for a second that he'd voted "no".. Clinton or McCain or someone could then come back and say "Obama voted against protecting our children from being exposed to seedy adult bookstores near their school!". So his "present" vote was absolutely politcally savvy, geared entirely for damage control in the future. That my good friends is classic politics at it's finest.

The whole stupid "plagiarism" thing was stupid. But that wasn't the real point. If you saw any pundits talking about it, they were all saying "hey it's normal and commonplace for politicians to borrow lines and talking points all the time!", Yet none of those same pundits actually listened to themselves enough to realise that what they were saying was it's politics-as-usual in the Obama camp!

Supporting someone with zeal and passion is great! But dont be blinded by them to the point where you aren't seeing them. I dont love Clinton or Obama or McCain or Huckabee. But I know bullshit when I see it, and I dont care how much charisma it has or how it looks in a pant suit.. it still stinks. So just do yourself a favor and think independant before you throw everlasting support behind any one of these career politicians.

02-23-2008, 11:30 AM
Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	I'm sure it's a waste of time to point out that it's supposed supporters, not Clinton herself.. But be that as it may.. The thing is that if this group is being formed, and even if we go on the limb before the fact and say that they will only support one candidate.. we are left with the undeniable fact that the first person to use the group is...... drum roll... Obama. Thats already laid out in the email itself, it's not maybe, or might, or looks like, or sources say.. it's right there in your inbox. They're using it to get support and shine negative light on Clinton. Now if you dont see the hypocrisy of it all, then I would humbly suggest that maybe you should consider your own objectivity. I see some people get it, supporters of Obama's, supporters of Clinton, McCain, Paul, whoever. Thats healthy! But you can not get up there and talk about being against politics as usual when your campaign and own record show politics as usual. It's not smart to continue on with playing the voters for stupid chumps. He'll swift boat himself and that'd be a disaster for the general election. His "present" vote on the bill that would have banned adult stores near schools was politics as usual. His reasoning was perfect; local zoning laws are the proper place to limit or restrict what type of businesses or residences can be erected in a given area. Thats why normally a person would vote "No" on a bill. But he voted "present" and here's why.. Imagine for a second that he'd voted "no".. Clinton or McCain or someone could then come back and say "Obama voted against protecting our children from being exposed to seedy adult bookstores near their school!". So his "present" vote was absolutely politcally savvy, geared entirely for damage control in the future. That my good friends is classic politics at it's finest. The whole stupid "plagiarism" thing was stupid. But that wasn't the real point. If you saw any pundits talking about it, they were all saying "hey it's normal and commonplace for politicians to borrow lines and talking points all the time!", Yet none of those same pundits actually listened to themselves enough to realise that what they were saying was it's politics-as-usual in the Obama camp! Supporting someone with zeal and passion is great! But dont be blinded by them to the point where you aren't seeing them. I dont love Clinton or Obama or McCain or Huckabee. But I know bullshit when I see it, and I dont care how much charisma it has or how it looks in a pant suit.. it still stinks. So just do yourself a favor and think independant before you throw everlasting support behind any one of these career politicians. __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.