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Old 02-14-2008, 05:00 PM  
Rhesus
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Originally Posted by D View Post
That's not what he said at all.

And he's probably calling you light headed because, well... you certainly seem it.

Americans have a right to own guns so that we never have to worry about our country becoming a fascism, despotism, or tyranny. It's that simple. The citizens have guns, the citizens have ultimate authority. Whoever has lethal force has ultimate authority... and in a Republic, it's the citizen.

You think the Nazi's would have taken over the U.S. as easily as they rolled over continental Europe?

Do you think that anyone in the U.S. is seriously worried about a leader like Bush ever using the Military to overthrow constitutional government and serve as our Emperor for life?

Do you think anyone in the U.S. thinks that either could ever happen at any point in the next thousand years?

The answer - even to those that are able to put aside our fears for the moment and look at the past and into the future with open eyes - is no. And that reason is both because of the Second Amendment, and the entire reason that the right to bear arms is such a part of American culture.

So... on a long-term scale - which is more dangerous? A nation where the citizens have ultimate authority and can, if only symbolically, overthrow their government... or a nation of sheep - powerless in the wake of any government that claims jurisdiction over them?

You live in Holland, right? Why not go up to anyone over 75, and ask them what they think.
Such arguments only hold true in primal societies (such as, according to your chatter, the US) or deep down in tribal Africa. Man, learn to think about the American box some time...


"Americans have a right to own guns so that we never have to worry about our country becoming a fascism, despotism, or tyranny. It's that simple. "

You may want to consider that on the world stage, a considerable share of the world's people think of America the ultimate tyrant.
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