God, I am late to the game on this discussion, but can't believe what I am reading....
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Originally Posted by Shap
So by accepting Redtube traffic I'm thrown into the same boat as all the low lifes in our industry that have given every surfer they've encountered every reason to never join a paysite again? Fuck The Surfer right? Isn't that our industry slogan? I'm the one guy who's been against that from day one. And accepting RedTube traffic makes me not care about the industry?
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Yes accepting tube traffic associates you with the criminals, plain and simple. Very stupid statement in my opinion. You are making a buck by them advertising with unapproved content from other programs. Fuck the point that your content is approved and is being advertised only with your banners and your links.... congrats.. you got your stuff taken care of. You threw your colleagues under the bus while you are sitting pretty... how about saying to RedTube that they can't use any of your stuff until EVERYTHING on their site is legit???? That's a tough one to get past isn't it? Why in the hell does anyone think that copyrights go to shit once on the NET??? No one owning a site should be responsible for ensuring that everything on it is OK??? (I mean seriously.. if no one cares about copyrights, why the fuck do we care if CP or bestiality or sites advertising selling of illegal drugs are out there? It's the fuckin wild west for real!!!) Make it all legit, or work on shutting them down.. come on man, I thought you were smarter than this???
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Originally Posted by Shap
This is exactly what happened with RedTube. We approached them about our stolen content. They replied telling us they really want to work with us and follow our rules.
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They just want to follow your rules or they want to follow the rules of common sense and responsibility?
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We laid out what are rules were and they've followed them. I think they've approached many sites about this but everyone is slamming the door in their face. That isn't going to get them to go away.
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Why don't your rules say that you will not accept traffic from any affiliate found to be utilizing copyright violating content of any sort? Not just yours, but anyones?????? You are in bed with thieves man... seriously!!!!
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How many companies in our industry started out the wrong way and found their way and became huge successes? It seems to be the way our industry works. I think that has a lot to do with the nature and the cost of entry. With such a low cost of entry anybody can start a company in our industry. Some start off by bending the rules. Others start of by stealing designs, content etc. As an industry we've never had an issue with this and we've been willing to give people a chance to become legit.
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Oh god... this makes no sense. Bend the rules then become legit? This is wrong on soooooooooo many levels.... You are being a savior or philanthropist or do-gooder of some sort? Helping the needy find their way???
Tell them straight up you want them to go legit. Tell them you want them to police every piece of content that crosses their threshhold. Tell them to do it the right way or you will sue them for using your content improperly. See what they say. You will become the least important person on their list. At this point, you are cooperating with them, not the other way around; but interestingly enough, you are the one benefitting from the arrangement financially.
Totally twisted logic man. I had applied to shoot for you and can honestly say that with this type of attitude and logic I am not disappointed now that you ignored me.