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Originally Posted by drjones
Well, the DEVIL on the wall, IMHO, is how UHC advocates paint the current medical system.
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There is no need for this, we will not make additional billions making people sign for a private insurance.
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Originally Posted by drjones
Yea, I'll agree, its less than ideal in many cases and needs reform, but the number of uninsured in this country is relatively small, at 15%.
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I would be interested about the number of those who CAN'T get any insurance (meaning declined).
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Originally Posted by drjones
If you break down those stats even farther, you find that 60% of those people are well ABOVE the poverty level. Your likely to find big screen tv's in their homes and all the bling they can carry, because they have made a conscious choice not buy health insurance. I'm not one to put a gun to the horses head to make them drink. 63% of the uninsured are below age 34.... the healthiest age group.
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If you can prove the people are volunteers not to have insurance I will publically state US is the craziest country in the world.
I cannot imagine anyone to ever risk to be at least pseudoinsured (as far as I know that you can get insurance around 100 - 150 USD) in a system where a minor to average health problem or accident will cost you thousands of dollars..
That's why I always doublecheck my travel insurance before crossing the border.
In any case - gamblers are not what we are discussing, anyone can gamble as much as they want with anything, but we are not discussing gamblers.
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Originally Posted by drjones
There is no crisis. Most definitely not large enough to create what will surely be the largest gov bureaucracy we have to date, along with a huge tax increase, that will once again overburden the middle class with the weight of it.
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Another devil on the wall - I can't imagine more dangerous beaurocracy than letting someone to approve your cure - letting someone approve if you are in a bad shape or not, if they will cover that or not, if you are not too expensive.
Taxes? Well I have to rely on those, who know the local tax bracket from their practical experience to better judge that.
Anyway - with UHC you still have more chances to survive (you can't get declined) and you save the bill that you would have to pay for the cure in case you get seriously (meaning expensively) sick.