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Originally Posted by GatorB
I would say this to people that are against "universal healthcare" they argue they don't want socialized medicine in the US. Well guess what we already have it. It;s called medicaid and medicare. Anyone that fails to at least understand that point doesn't even need to continue with the argument. They say they don't want their tax dollars going to socialized medicine. Well it already does. WTF do you think you FICA taxes pay for?
Those against "government healthcare" also need to realize medicaid and medicare ARE NOT going away no matter good an idea that may be or not. now I personally think social security is an outdated program that needs to be done away with. I however understand REALITY and know it's not going away anytime soon. So I can sit here and bitch and moan about the need to get rid of it or I can accept REALITY and at least try to find the best way to deal with the situation as it exists.
So since we already have a quasi socialized medicine system, and we already admit it's fucked up and we already admit it's not going away, hey let's make it work BETTER.
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Read back just a few posts. I already mentioned medicare and medicaid. Duh, I know we already have these. I was against Bush' Medicare D proposal ever since he made it during the election. So there is no way I would have added Med D a few years back when it passed.
That being said I wouldn't take these services away from anyone already receiving them. There is the rub. Once you introduce such a service it is hard as hell to take them away. You are 100% right. "It is NOT going away anytime soon". I believe these "services" should have never been introduced. That doesn't mean I would eliminate them once they have been introduced. It would make sense to reduce the scope over time though. Pretty sure social security is going to have to be reduced one way or another.