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Old 01-17-2008, 09:11 AM  
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Originally Posted by shermsshack View Post
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People may choose MGP's over tubes for varied reasons. Maybe it's because they actually LIKE looking at galleries to find a new paysite to visit because they want quality, and not some grainy flash clip. Maybe they like watching in an external player without having to pass it through a software converter. TGP surfers will continue to enjoy pics without question, as maybe they don't care to surf free porn vids. Maybe they use pics to preview a site, and want the bulk of the content once inside. Maybe their connections just suck and pics are all they can view efficiently. Not every surfer loves strictly movies and not every surfer is on a high speed connection.
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As far as everybody making tubes and the traffic model changing... Current bandwidth prices don't make it possible for joe schmoe to enter the market and expand without worries of going broke with bw overages. Sure there are ways around it with hotlinking, etc...but surfers have and always will be able to tell a quality site vs. a cookie cutter.

Also, keep in mind that the person that wanted free porn to begin with (and that used to get it on MGP's and TGP's), will still avoid paying for it by these new methods. The buyers that had wanted to purchase memberships before will still be doing so. This will not change, unless the tube is nothing but stolen shit without linkbacks.

A tube is no replacement for a high quality membership site, and surfers who want quality will always know this. It seems like the people with the most fear of the market change seem to be people who don't own TGP's, MGP's or their own high traffic networks, but those who rely heavilly on submitting MGP and TGP galleries. I can see how this would be intimidating...gallery submitting is a decent part of my income as well, but diversification and adaption is key if you don't want to be the fat that is trimmed away.

Anyways, I digress... Back on topic! Does everybody seem to believe that dropping Alexa rankings are in fact due to dropping traffic, or is there just a larger traffic pool than before due to the rise in viral marketing?
You make some good points. I went to one of those tube sites for the first time a week ago and was surprised at how crappy it was. Still better than mpg sites in terms of what they give away but still crappy compared to quality full length rips.

No matter what someones opinions are on tube sites there is no denying that they are currently the biggest porn sites online and that is not something to just try and brush off.

The real advantage they have over quality membership sites is variety. Someone can view a few clips from facial abuse, then some playboy vids all on the same site, all for free. Of course mpg's offer variety too but not at the length tube sites do, and i sure as hell hope mpgs don't think they can adapt by demanding their submitters to submit longer movie clips. That will just make things even worse. The more people feel entitled to free porn, the less will buy, in my opinion. And it doesn't help that so many people, especially the younger generation feels only losers pay for porn.
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