Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn

I can't speak for Halcyon because I don't' know what his routine is. Maybe he always looked like he does now since he was young. But all you guys suggesting that having a lean body is mostly genetics just don't want to work out hard or eat a strictly healthy diet. Anyone can be lean and muscular to varying degrees, depending on your build, but you have to have discipline and exercise hard, lifting weights and doing some cardio and eating really well all in combination.

The proof in what I am saying is the endless examples of former out of shape, overweight people who made a startling transformation to their physiques by applying the principles of lifting weights, eating very healthy (and not overeating) and doing some cardiovascular exercise.

Anyone saying you need great genetics or saying that they have slow metabolisms, thyroid imbalances or a myriad of other nonsense excuses as to why they personally can't get lean and ripped don't know what they are talking about or are downright full of shit.