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Originally Posted by rabbit
this applies more for revshare programs, as i do understand that pps programs have no choice but shave if they are to offer high payouts...
redirecting foreign traffic is shaving
doing cross-sales is shaving
doing up-sells is shaving
cookie expiration is shaving
shaving is shaving
i'm sure i forgot something, feel free to ad to the list
my point is that outright click or sales shaving probably represents a much lower lost revenue amount than the other issues listed, cause a program can only shave so much before nobody will promote it cause its not profitable.
for all the bitching though, i doubt that there is a single revshare program out there that does NONE of the above.
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I will weigh in on this as an affiliate.
I don't think any of the things you listed is shaving. Shaving imo is stealing. It's when you should get credit for a sale per their program tos and you don't because they intentionally or unintentially not give you credit for every say 5th sale, etc...
Upsells, Cross sales, Pop unders, cookies expiring, redirecting foreign traffic etc.. is all part of the program and built into what they can offer you for a sale. If a site does none of the things mentioned above I think they will offer you less per a sale then a site that does all of the above. The site does all of the above they make more money and in "most" cases you should see some of that back in higher payouts.
If you feel that a site that does these things causes you to lose signups then don't promote that site.
If you are on a revshare deal making 50% and they cross sale, pop under, upsell etc.. and you still only make your 50% of just the membership fees, I would personally avoid that company. But if you were doing PPS and those extra income sources enabled them to pay you $45 a sale instead of $35 a sale then I see nothing wrong with they are doing.