Originally Posted by Dollarmansteve

I vehemently disagree that a program, revshare or PPS, would credit an affiliate for an up-sell sale. An upsell defined as a product/service sold in the members area of a paysite. (excluding 'free'-type email and other programs that are base a payout on an assumed upsell, ie wegcash join4free)

The affiliate program owns that members area 100% and has invested 100% of the capital to produce and maintain that asset. The affiliate has absolutey no ownership of the members area and in no way should receive $$ from up-sells. If a program decides to do so, that's their perogative, but it shouldn't be assumed.

When affiliates start paying bills associated with the members area, then they can lay claim to the revenue.

How many affiliates would pony up $50k, $100k, or $500k. $2M to invest into a members area for a share of the revenue??? That is what members' areas cost - upsells are a reward that the sponsor program earns for assuming 100% of the investment risk, the transaction risk, etc.

It's time that the word "partnership" means just that - Affiliate programs do not exist to provide a handout to webmasters. The capitalist system is based on the ability of agents (individuals/companies) to earn a profit from the assumption of risk. Until an affiliate participates in the risk, they should not participate in the reward.

/rant.