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Old 01-01-2008, 01:01 PM  
gideongallery
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Originally Posted by L-Pink View Post
The copy of a show you have already paid for should be obtained from the source you purchased it from. That is the entity that received your money. How many downloads from a torrent site are to replace purchased copyrighted material? There is the problem with any argument.

well i only have the research done for tv shows

both neilson and gartner did research this summer regarding the impact of downloadable tv vs broadcast tv.

according to those studies 2.5 million people have stopped watching tv on tv and instead download all their shows commercial free ( assuming all of them gave up their cable service these people are stealing content)

another 22.5 million people are using downloads to get tv shows they are missing (either because they missed a show, failed to tape it or were only informed about it after it had successfully aired for weeks).(fair use because they still pay for cable otherwise they would not able to consume that product on tv.)

that a 9-1 ratio

which is the point those that use torrent (at least for tv shows) are using it for a legitimate purpose.

demanding that only get it from the source you originally got it from it unfair extension of the monopoly (as defined by the beta max case law- like disabling the record button on the VCR).

That case authorized the aquiring of copyright material that i bought a right to from friends ( ie tape loaning for free). So when a torrent seeder gives me the content i paid for it falls in the same boat.

As a copyright holder in less than 15 minutes you can get all the ip address of the peers in a swarm, identify the isp that owns that ip address and send C&D letter out to them. Those that have a legitimate right to download (90%) will be able to defend their fair use with a copy of the law, relevant court cases, and their cable bill (just like i did already) those that do not (10%) will have their internet cut off. Forcing them to buy cable again because their illegal source of content would be gone.

You don't need to take away the rights of the majority (90%) to protect your income for the minority of copyright violators (10%).
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