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will76 · 12-25-2007, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley

LAWDS MERCY this turned out long lemme turn of teh yellows and teh ghey.

So ok he definitely seems off his rocker, but I have to admit, he's taken what started out as some minor board drama with NATs, and turned it into a full fledged tornado of shit fire.

I certainly see people on the board complain about "Bros" "Top Notch" "Stand Up" cronieism a lot. He seems to have taken what may be a serious situation, and effectively prevented it being shrugged off by the "Bros" (I think we've all seen the attack dogs out in full force against anyone that criticized TMM even before minusonebit went bat shit crazy).

Has he been libeling TMM / NATS? I have no idea, as I have no idea what the actual facts are. But what I DO know, is that if John actually sues MinusOnebit, and he doesn't scare off, it's going to court.

There, John would have to answer very specific questions under oath about what happened, when he knew about it, and what he did. Also, if it was indeed a hack, if they contacted the authorities, and if not, why not? He'd have to answer questions about OC3's accusations that they publicly made that John threated clients and their own company with lawsuits in order to keep them quiet.

Of course, these clients would then be called too, which means they'd be publicly identified as people that knew about this problem, but didn't inform the industry because, as OC3 has claimed in their threads, they were afraid of John and threats of lawsuits and/or license revocation. If so, would that amount to claims of extortion or coercion?

Again, I have no way of knowing what is or is not true, I can only hash out what's been said publicly in threads by various program owners, OC3 Networks, TMM John, MinusOnebit, etc. But if John takes this to court, we'll all know EXACTLY what took place.

I have to wonder if John is posturing hoping being served is enough to shut minusonebit up, of if he plans on going all the way with his legal action?

The question is, would the truth about what exactly happened be more damaging to TMM/NATS reputation than the things MinusOneBit has been doing, or not?

I guess time will tell, until then, I'll reserve judgement.

I think John makes himself out to be the biggest idiot and loser from all of this. He was so worried about what minusonebit was posting that he kept arguing with him and threatening to sue him that it eventually turned into something bigger. I can understand John wanting to protect his company, but come on it is minusonebit. The guy has no credibility around here, what does he do again? exactly. So John should have just said what he minusonebit was posting was false and left it at that. Instead he argues with someone that no one believes anyway and it makes John look worse for it. Because IMO he should have been focusing on real damage control and not board pissing matches with idiots. He should have been working with clients affected and trying to regain their confidence not replying to trolls on GFY. If he would have replied to him " i can understand why you are so mad and to some extent we deserve your bashing for having allowed this to happen" and then just ignored him, he would have went away.

I don't think what minusonebit is doing it right, and I don't think John "deserves it". But if John would have handled it better things would be a lot different now.