Originally Posted by lazycash

I really wish you would stop spouting this nonsense smokey, I've tried in the past to educate you about cams. When we got into the AWE debate a year ago you admittedly said you were new to cams and hadn't tried hardly any cam sponsors. I get the feeling by your comments now, that must still hold true.

Any affiliate that has ever sent a large amount of cam traffic to multiple revshare sponsors over an extended period of time knows right away that the AWE 14 day revshare will ultimately earn him less $/unique than any other revshare cam sponsor. I've been promoting cams and cams only for 8 years. I still get checks from Streamray(now cams.com), even though I stopped promoting them 3 years ago.

9 months ago I decided to test this out. I sent 25k uniques each to 3 different well known revshare cam sponsors with AWE being one of them. The traffic all came from the same source, a source I've been using for over 5 years. The first two sponsors pay out lifetime revshare (like every other revshare cam sponsor but AWE), and then there was AWE and its 14 day revshare. After 14 days, AWE and one of the other sponsor's earnings were very close, within $100. The third sponsor did only 50% of what the first two did. After 2 months, the second sponsor had more than doubled AWE's earnings and the third sponsor had now caught up and exceeded AWE by 10% as AWE's earnings came to a screeching halt at 14 days. After 4 months, the second sponsor was now more than 2.5 times AWE's earnings and the third sponsor was now 75% more than AWE's earnings. After 6 months most of the revshare had died, with just a few still buying. Now at the 9 month mark I'm still seeing some revshare coming in from those campaigns and the second sponsor is now over 3 times AWE's earnings.

The test results were exactly what I thought they were going to be and just confirmed that if you are going to promote revshare cams, promote a sponsor that pays out for the life of the customer. Here is my AWE assessment: They have great promo tools, as good as any other cam sponsor. They cover almost all the cam niches and have tons of models on at all times of the day and models that can convert English speaking as well as Euro traffic. However, having said that, the only possible scenario I could see recommending them is if you had a small amount of traffic for a brief period. They will convert your traffic, but only pay you for the first 14 days.

Frankly, the 14 day cookie thing has been rehashed plenty, if you think you're earning more with them then stay with them. I can just tell you from my experience and test, that anyone sending a steady amount of traffic over an extended period of time will ultimately lose money promoting AWE vs another lifetime revshare cam sponsor.

I still think AWE needs to do a better job of informing the new webmaster upon signup about the 14 day revshare. They prey upon the fact that most webmasters assume the term "revshare" means for the life of the customer particularly when its promoting cams. Its only briefly mentioned in their terms(how many webmasters actually read that) and its nowhere to be found on their main promo page or FAQ page even though they seem to cover almost every other question. Even in this thread alone there are webmasters promoting them that were unaware of the 14 day revshare even though there have been multiple threads on the subject here.

The only reason AWE noted it in their terms is because they were called out by their own affiliates in their own forum. Then their owner preceded to come on this board and tell all his affiliates they were lucky he was even bothering to pay them for the 14 days as he felt thats all his affiliates deserved.