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Originally Posted by lazycash
I really wish you would stop spouting this nonsense smokey,
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could you point out what nonsense i spouted.. ? you mean me correcting someone who said awe denied using 14 day cookies when it actually never happened ?
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I've tried in the past to educate you about cams.
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and you failed because you didnt tell me anything i didnt already know
you are letting your ego cloud your judgement
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When we got into the AWE debate a year ago you admittedly said you were new to cams and hadn't tried hardly any cam sponsors.
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that is neither here nor their.. i know nothing about painting but i can sure tell if i like one
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Originally Posted by lazycash
I get the feeling by your comments now, that must still hold true.
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i could say the same about you if we were in grade 2
fact is i am honest and explained my poisition then and now and you obviously disagree , thats fine..
i have pushed about 100k to various cam sponsors this year so if that helps soothe your mind them cool ,if not then oh well.
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Originally Posted by lazycash
Any affiliate that has ever sent a large amount of cam traffic to multiple revshare sponsors over an extended period of time knows right away that the AWE 14 day revshare will ultimately earn him less $/unique than any other revshare cam sponsor.
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i have never heard that from anyone but you so far.. infact quite a few peopel have said the opposite.. go figure
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Originally Posted by lazycash
I still get checks from Streamray(now cams.com), even though I stopped promoting them 3 years ago.
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cool .
use them then . sounds like it does better for you , i tried them it didnt
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9 months ago I decided to test this out. I sent 25k uniques each to 3 different well known revshare cam sponsors with AWE being one of them. The traffic all came from the same source, a source I've been using for over 5 years. The first two sponsors pay out lifetime revshare (like every other revshare cam sponsor but AWE), and then there was AWE and its 14 day revshare. After 14 days, AWE and one of the other sponsor's earnings were very close, within $100. The third sponsor did only 50% of what the first two did. After 2 months, the second sponsor had more than doubled AWE's earnings and the third sponsor had now caught up and exceeded AWE by 10% as AWE's earnings came to a screeching halt at 14 days. After 4 months, the second sponsor was now more than 2.5 times AWE's earnings and the third sponsor was now 75% more than AWE's earnings. After 6 months most of the revshare had died, with just a few still buying. Now at the 9 month mark I'm still seeing some revshare coming in from those campaigns and the second sponsor is now over 3 times AWE's earnings.
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i do hope you realise anyone who is serious in this game does the same thing , we obviously just have different results.
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Originally Posted by lazycash
Frankly, the 14 day cookie thing has been rehashed plenty, if you think you're earning more with them then stay with them.
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exactly. that was my point then and has been this time as well
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I can just tell you from my experience and test, that anyone sending a steady amount of traffic over an extended period of time will ultimately lose money promoting AWE vs another lifetime revshare cam sponsor.
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and other have tested and found the opposite
theres lots of other factors to be had.. maybe you don't promote them properly
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Originally Posted by lazycash
I still think AWE needs to do a better job of informing the new webmaster upon signup about the 14 day revshare. They prey upon the fact that most webmasters assume the term "revshare" means for the life of the customer particularly when its promoting cams. Its only briefly mentioned in their terms(how many webmasters actually read that) and its nowhere to be found on their main promo page or FAQ page even though they seem to cover almost every other question. Even in this thread alone there are webmasters promoting them that were unaware of the 14 day revshare even though there have been multiple threads on the subject here.
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completely agreed then and agree now