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Originally Posted by Just_in_Support
I work at XTube daily and send around 300 000 hits per day to different affiliate programs. However if you think that the new user-generated content surfer goes to a tube site with the intention of signing up to a Member site, then you may find yourself stuck in the past.
Take a look at Peep Shows. I'm pretty sure they were saying the same things you've said here: The internet will never work, it will only work in a way that will benefit us. If the 'Net sends people to our Peeps Shows, then it will be viable.
Ask yourself this:
Why do Tubes even need your content when they can go 100% Amateur?
You may want to think of the new paradigms at play here, ill shoot off a couple:
1. The average user does NOT want to pay a monthly fee, for fear of recurring. Don't believe me. Look at Prepaid Cell Phones. Would not exist if people loved using a phone and consistently getting billed every month, some do, when they want the most features, but most dont like bills.
2.The average user does not need 40 Gigs of your content, and spending 39.99 just doesnt justify getting off this second. The average user can only justify this by ripping a whole Member site for future use.
3.The average user is stuck in an "Immediate Gratification"
Most users wanyt porn now. Not after a payment, or after a slew of tour upsells.
4. Most users dont mind paying a small fee for a small portion of porn. Dont think so? My sites sells around 500% more scenes than Full DVDs. A Mainstream example: ITunes.
So theres my two cents on the matter of whether a Tube site is financially viable. Most sites, including all the evil P2P/Torrent Sites, can be financially viable. It is just a matter of monetizing the system by not letting the user assume its "all free"
FYI: XTube sells VOD/Streaming TV/Ad Space to cover the bandwidth. How will you adapt in the future
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It's kind of funny to me that this is the response that I get from what I think was a pretty accurate portrayal of the relationship between sponsor and tube site (which if you look at the title of the thread and it's original intent you would see that this si the issue being discussed). Besides, xtube is not really the kind of tube site that we are talking about. You are more of a vod company if you ask me.
So to answer your question:
I think people need our content because not everyone like amateur video.
Perhaps you should ask yourself why there are so many genres and niches of porn out there. Never mind, I'll answer for you...because people like variety and people like different things. Show me more than a dozen good quality amateur gang bangs. Show me more than a dozen high quality amateur ass fucking movies. I could go on till the cows come home here. And to validate my point, I am into amateur porn and have seen the vast majority of what is out there since I've been checking it out since 1999, so I know very well what is out there (and on that point, tube sites is not where you find the good amateur content anyways).
Oh wow, what a visionary statement: "Most users don't mind paying a small fee for a small portion of porn." No kidding, that is why we have companies doing video on demand and downloads by scene. It is an attempt to go after the people not interested in doing the recurring billing thing when they only watch pron once in a while. I'm not sure what you consider to be most users, but I think you will find that it is really a very small fraction of porn surfers who ever buy a membership to a site or a scene from a video...just look at your conversion ratios for proof. Even if you are converting at 1:100 (which is unlikely), that is still a whopping 1%. Not sure where you are from, but in my world 1% is not "most", at best it is some.
Now, the other thing that you have to realize is that what you guys are doing and what youporn or redtube (and so on) are doing is very different. When I look at your site I notice that vod is the main focus, where as on these other tube sites, vod is very very secondary. I agree that what you are doing is trying to use the tube format to sell vod while having free amateur content to keep surfers coming back for more. That, like I said, is very different from most of the other tube sites.
FYI. You don't need to tell me what you do. I do some research first so that I know what I am talking about. You think I would reply to your thread without looking at your site? For that matter, you think I don't know what your site is about before you even posted here. No, I pay attention to what is going on.