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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo
I think there are multiple reasons. First off, we really haven't been far removed from a time where blacks couldn't vote, own property, go to good schools, etc. They had no money, no businesses. You can't just step right into society when you control absolutely NOTHING and expect to compete with others. It's the same reason why you don't see a high percentage of women owning companies and making millions. Money and power doesn't change quickly, it take many generations. Ask yourself who is most likely to have money, Bill Gates grandkids or the poor white trailer trash grandkid.
Africa is a fucked up place, but it's fucked up in large part due to what Europe did to it. Conquering lands, imposing laws, and pillaging the lands for resources doesn't exactly help build a part of the world. Read Guns, Germs, and Steel and you'll get a fascinating look at why certain races and cultures thrived over others and were able to keep others down.
I think it's wrong for blacks and any race to sit back and blame others while doing nothing to fix the problem. But there is no denying that the reason minorities and women are poorer in this country is due in large part to what this country did to them for centuries. It's like joining a monopoly game after everyone has been playing for 2 hours and owns all the properties on the board.
But none of this is really what we are arguing. The argument is whether race is the cause of crime of poverty. Statistics show it is poverty.
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I agree with some of what you say, but find certain parts of your post to sound a lot like making excuses for some reason. For one thing, I know it's rather simplistic but no less true.... on looking back through history it's found that while Anglo cultures were busy figuring out ways of forming governments and building their nations through democratic means, most of Africa was standing outside their mud huts waiting to be conquered and exploited. In fact many nations in Africa are many centuries older than the US for example, yet in all that time have accomplished very little in the way of modern progress.
All I seem to see in such countries are news clips showing them suffering overpopulation, their women squeezing out baby after baby, their dictatorships being overthrown or their so-called militaries reigning death and mayhem down on their people decade after decade.
Why is that again?
Complex problems, it seems to take countries like GB or the US to send in teams to help them reform their government and their entire infrastructure, yet that rarely if ever works either... because there's always an "uprising" where part of the population fights against progress and change.
Running in and feeding them offers no long term solution. A year later they are all still starving and crying out for help.
Thankfully in the US the black community has such things as the United Negro College fund and several other programs offered only to blacks to give them a way to make something of themselves. While I'm all for the goal I do think it's interesting that if there were to be a "United WHITE colleg fund" or a "White history month" etc there would be hell raised by the black community.
Thankfully here in Canada most tend to not focus on color that much. We have every minority under the sun just as others do, and some racial tension like anywhere else... just not to the degree as that of the US. Black, white, red, yellow, whatever, makes no difference to me as long as you're law-abiding and making something of yourself instead of out stealing other people's shit.
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