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Old 12-05-2007, 07:03 PM  
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I cannot believe I am actually replying to this post John as I think it is ridiculous, but I will in order to make some minor points and just defend some of the things you say without merit.


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Originally Posted by PBucksJohn View Post
It has nothing to do with me liking something or not. It has to do with the facts.

An industry leader is a bold claim.

Oy replies: Yes it is and we both seem to claim it. Guess that makes us both industry leaders

As far as your points...

NATS is a more advanced software by far. I'm sure you'd love to debate it but ask people who work with BOTH systems. And not friends or clients of yours.

Oy replies: I would like for you to point out what Nats has that MPA3 does not. I say it is not and that each to their own. I agree that neither my friends nor yours should be part of the discussion.

I don't think time in business is much of a factor as to being an "industry leader" after having proven oneself. It may be relevant to being a dinosaur tho.

Oy replies: Yes it is, as the dinosaurs roamed the earth for a long long time very successfully as they adapted to their environment very well. Of course, the dinosaurs did eventually die out and that from a catastrophe that they could not control themselves. Let us hope that does not happen to this "dinosaur"

I'm pretty sure even with the Epochstats clients added you still don't have more than us. I even see people moving off of it to us. I find it amazing if the product is that good they would rather pay us than have it for free. BTW, is that being upgraded to the new MPA3 v2?

Oy replies: I doubt you do but if you tell me your number I will show you mine! (jk) As for your Epoch statement, well that is just your statement and nothing else. But of course I can see why some program owners will choose either Nats or MPA3 version if they do not want, for some reason, to use Epoch as their primary biller. Then they have to do something else like Nats. I have no problem seeing that at all. In fact, some companies cannot use Epoch because of physical location or restrictions from VISA and MC.

As far as transactions processed by a client; I don't know how you claim to know the size of our clients. That is a pretty bold claim. Are you looking at things you shouldn't be?

Oy replies: It was a pure guesstimate and I am guessing it is the truth. Besides, I would not throw stones while sitting in a glass house John.

It may make for great marketing, but things aren't true just because you say they are.

I'm also glad you decided to start throwing around personal insults. I find it odd you can disagree with my post but when I make the same disagreement I'm somehow "childish".

Oy replies: I found your post childish. End of story.

Also, while I have you, please stop using the term "Next-Generation". You never used it until well after NATS was released. If you can show me prior use please do so.

Oy replies: I will definitely remove that tagline if it is true you used it first. So I did some research and unless I am wrong here it might be the other way around unless you can show me something I cannot find:

July 28, 2004: http://web.archive.org/web/200407240...ions.com/mpa3/

January 3, 2006:
http://web.archive.org/web/200601030...products/nats/

January 5, 2005: http://web.archive.org/web/200501050...w.getnats.com/

This is all I can find and if correct then you are 5-6 months AFTER us using that tagline - now, if I am wrong and you can show me otherwise then I will personally apologize and also remove this particular tagline from our websites. You have my word on that.

And that was about it for tonight. My wife and I have our 5 year wedding anniversary and I would prefer spending it with her rather than on GFY bickering with you John.

Have a nice night.

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