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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
what is "finish the job? making them like us ? . What your saying is no matter how flawed a plan it was/is it is never good to not finish .. i dont think i agree with you there. I think if you build a crooked house you don't ignore the problem because the house is almost "kinda finished". Sure the usa could get the house kinda finished but at some point it's going to come crashing down because the house was never built properly to begin with ..
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No what I'm saying is that if we just up and leave, the whole country will fall into the hands of something worse than what was there before, I'm not sure what is the best course of what to set up there, but a democracy that works with it's own army wold probably be the best, am I wrong?
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so the news tells the people what to do , the people tell the government what to do .. so its all the news's fault that bush lied to us .. ?
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It's a fact that the news only reports whats going to sell the news, they don't report on the good they are doing, but there is a reason for that, if Fox reported that the coalition troops reopened a school, insurgents would bomb it, if Fox reported that the troops opened a hospital, then it would get bombed, problem with this is that the news only has left to tell the american public or the world for that matter is the death toll. they end up painting a one sided tale of the occupation
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what you forgot to look up is what desertion is none of the people mentioned would even remotely qualify for desertion.
Your reverse logic is so basically flawed it's silly. You can't honestly believe that stopping a war is desertion ? that "not attacking" something is desertion..?
what your trying to say is that not agreeing with a war = desertion , thus any war suggested must be valid and finished or you are deserters.
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what I was tring to spell out was not the desertion, just that thats' where the first statement probably came from. That our congresmen that are using the war in Iraq as a rally cry are doing harm to moral to our troops.
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Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
think about that