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Old 11-19-2007, 01:13 PM  
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Our government sent them there, if we don't finish the job, it will be worse in the long run.
what is "finish the job? making them like us ? . What your saying is no matter how flawed a plan it was/is it is never good to not finish .. i dont think i agree with you there. I think if you build a crooked house you don't ignore the problem because the house is almost "kinda finished". Sure the usa could get the house kinda finished but at some point it's going to come crashing down because the house was never built properly to begin with ..

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I have no patience for Congressmen that argue they were lied to!
i think its quite obvious to anyone we were lied to so i guess i agree with you there , at this point there is no point in "what if'ing".
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Are their votes so easliy got with lies or do they take what they do seriuosly and do their own research?
i don't remember voting for the war..


i dont think anyone can expect the average american to have a handle on every foreign countries weapons capabilities..

yes i think if the president tells you he knows there are wmd's and here they are that theres a cer6tain amount of trust involved that we have come to expect.


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The people only echo what the news plays on, we're a nation relying on sound bites of discontent for our moral fulfillment. Which is really sad
so the news tells the people what to do , the people tell the government what to do .. so its all the news's fault that bush lied to us .. ?

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You're right, I looked it up, and someone in the government made it up, what a shock, but I did find this, which means the same thing to me...

Lincoln, 1863: Long experience has shown that armies can not be maintained unless desertion shall be punished by the severe penalty of death. The case requires, and the law and the Constitution, sanction this punishment-- Must I shoot a simple-minded soldier boy who deserts, while I must not touch a hair of a wiley agitator who induces him to desert?
what you forgot to look up is what desertion is none of the people mentioned would even remotely qualify for desertion.

Your reverse logic is so basically flawed it's silly. You can't honestly believe that stopping a war is desertion ? that "not attacking" something is desertion..?

what your trying to say is that not agreeing with a war = desertion , thus any war suggested must be valid and finished or you are deserters.
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