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Originally Posted by RawAlex
The mistake is thinking that the UN is there only for "making peace". It is a conduit, a chance for everyone (including banana republic leaders and tin pot dictators) to say their piece and mouth off at each other. The theory is that as long as they are talking (even yelling) they aren't shooting at each other.
Killing off the UN without coming up with a suitable replacement would be the first step to a true world war 3.
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It is not in the US best interest to take part in the kangaroo court. The UN makes the US weaker, whether you want to admit it or not.
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Again, think this through to the end. You would get rid of the IRS and then what? You would replace it with something, because otherwise there would be no way to collect your flat tax or your consumption tax and nobody to check compliance, and nobody to audit the number of people living in the houses, and nobody to check to make sure the sales tax is collected. So you end up creating the TRS (Tax Revenue Service) and they end up just as big as the bloated mess is now.
You can rename your dog "fluffy the cat" but it is still a dog.
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The issue is the tax code. You would still have a compliance arm to make sure there are no cheaters. But right now the system is subjective and unclear. The tax code doesn't need to be overhauled, it needs to be scrapped. The IRS in its present form must be changed. Fluffy the cat has fleas.
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That would be Mr Paul's own party doing that. Last time I checked, the Boy president was handed a declining deficit, a free sailing economy, high employment, and a highly regarded currency with super high values. 7 years later, the US is locked into a major unpopular war, scared of it's own shadow, and spending nearly a trillion dollars to fight a war that isn't needed. Worse yet, because the US dollar is dropping like a rock, the value of crude oil is going up faster than it would have been if Iraq had been left alone.
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Look at Paul's voting record. He is totally consistent. He isn't a Republican if you check the record.
Clinton was extremely lucky to be in office when he was. He inherited a rebounding economy, IT revolution, bull market, and the fruits of the regan era. You can't name one policy of Clinton's that could be said attributed to the run in the 90's. He did not have to deal with 9-11(although he could have prevented 9-11). So Clinton was no FDR. Bush is no better and probably worse.
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Getting rid of the UN and making it "protect ourselves" will lead the US to even large military expenditures because it is likely more and more wars and skirmished would break out, and the US would get sucked in. The problems don't have to do with the UN or an ineffecient tax collection service, but has everything to do with American Imperialism and desire to shove democracy down everyone's throat, like it or not. It's expensive work, and the bill is coming due.
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Exactly, we cant afford to police the world anymore. Let the Chinese do it because it is expensive work. Let them be hated by every country in the world for meddling in their affairs. Let the US sit in the cheap seats and tell everyone the right way to do it. R. Paul wants the Imperialism to stop. A good start is to let the world handle its own affairs for a while. US needs to sit out a few innings and fix its own problems for a change. We'll see how much the US is missed after China has their way.
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last time I checked, Ron Paul was an elected official. He is exactly part of the problem.
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Again, check his record. He is not part of the problem. He may not be the best solution, but in this dog and pony show he wins the blue ribbon.