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Originally Posted by baddog
Okay, Lenny, let's stop and think about it for a bit.
Are you familiar with what a parable is? They are stories with a message, like Aesop's Fables. They are not "facts." Jesus and the other OT writers told them.
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You can't simply explain away the entire old testament by calling it a "fable" or "parable"
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Originally Posted by baddog
Take Jonah and the whale. No one really believes that some guy lived in the belly of a fish for three days and survived. But guess what? Jesus was in a tomb for three days. Coincidence? I think not.
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My friend, you would be amazed at how many people actually believe that is exactly what happened, along with Moses parting the red sea, and dozens of other stories.
So is the story of Jesus walking on water or turning water into wine or feeding 5000 people with a couple fish and a loaf of bread....or rising from the dead and dying for our sins....is that part real or is it just like Aesop's fables?
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Originally Posted by baddog
Let's go back to the Garden of Eden and Creation. Darwin was not born until the 1800's, and came up with the theory of evolution until the mid-1800's. So how the fuck was some guy that was trying to describe how the earth was created 2,000 years (or more) beforehand supposed to describe it?
If one were to suggest that the earth orbited around the sun, instead of the other way around he would be dragged outside to the nearest rock quarry and stoned to death.
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I think that people of faith have always been persecuted for their beliefs, and I really don't think saying something as ridiculous sounding as the earth orbits around the sun would deter them if they really thought the message was from god.
The earth revolving around the sun isn't any more ridiculous than alot of the other stuff that's in the bible. So if they were really hearing from God, why did they get it wrong?
I mean Moses claimed to have talked to a burning bush, and he supposedly parted the red sea...so it's ok to make claims like that but to say that the earth revolves around the sun is going too far? C'mon.
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Originally Posted by baddog
Think of the OT as Aesop's Fables for the religious. It might make it easier on you.
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I think of the old testament as a crock of shit, the same way I think of the new testament.
I don't get it, why is it ok to believe that jesus was born to a virgin mother, never committed a sin or made a mistake, walked on water, healed the sick, raised the dead, died for our sins, rose from the dead, and is now seated at god's right hand....all of that is true and to be taken literally....but the stuff in the old testament that we find offensive or that seems to contradict itself isn't really true, that part is just a "fable"
Kind of convenient don't ya think?