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Originally Posted by baddog
In fact, the first Bible wasn't printed until 1500 years after he died
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We're not talking about "the bible".....the discussion you and I are having is the old testament and whether or not Jesus and the writers of the new testament believed it.
According to tradition, the contents the Tanakh were codified by the Men of the Great Assembly ("Anshei K'nesset HaGedolah"), a task completed in 450 BCE, and have remained unchanged since that date
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanakh
Wouldn't it be ironic if the old testament weren't true and the new testament were? Considering that Jesus supposedly fulfilled all of those prophesies about the Messiah.
If the old testament prophecies weren't true, then he must not have been a Messiah, because the idea of a Messiah was a farce.
As a matter of fact, the gospel writers went to great pains to let us know that every time Jesus did a certain thing, he was fulfilling an old testament prophecy, and then the new testament writers quoted the old testament prophecy that he supposedly fulfilled.
You can't have it both ways. The new testament cannot be true if the old testament is not true.
Period.