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RawAlex · 11-09-2007, 12:33 AM

woj, actually, no, something a little more complex than that.

ccbill's system could distribute a list of acceptable domains to send joins to, perhaps communicating with the various partner systems in a push method to keep that list up to date. Every week or so, switch out the valid ones with other ones, and keep going. Essentially, don't keep your single signup domain as a simple target.

So for this week, ccbill21.com, ccbill22.com billbycc.com, ccbilling.com, cc22bill.com and joinnowcc.com are active. next week, they get replaced with new ones. The new ones would always be the best to use because the toolbar people won't have them. Switch them often enough, and the toolbar guys will get tired.

A similar thing could be done with the click counting. Instead of a long CCBill link, that could be replaced with simple code that goes on the domain of the paysite, which in turn triggers the count with the affiliate code. So instead of the long ccbill link, your link would be (and always be: www.paysite.com?9233745 (whatever your affiliate code is) and that system would translate it and push it through the most recent ccbill active domain for clicks.

With a rotating list of about 200 or 300 domains, and new ones added from time to time, it would be pretty hard for the toolbar guys to keep up. With the system in place, all join hits could easily be sent to another domain within minutes, and in fact that domain could be different for every join request.

It would be extremely hard (if not impossible) for Zango to trigger, example, in that circumstance, and it would require people to bid on all 200 or 300 domains to have a hope. Then you drop all those domains and replace them and they are fucked again. When it becomes too much work for them to attack you, they will move on to something easier.

NATS has the same problem with their default structure, which makes it very easy to trigger on the join pages. With one buy at Zango, I could pop a join page for another site over every single default install NATS site out there right now.

Why do you think your sales are evaporating, even as the traffic stays strong or increases?

11-09-2007, 12:33 AM
RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	woj, actually, no, something a little more complex than that. ccbill's system could distribute a list of acceptable domains to send joins to, perhaps communicating with the various partner systems in a push method to keep that list up to date. Every week or so, switch out the valid ones with other ones, and keep going. Essentially, don't keep your single signup domain as a simple target. So for this week, ccbill21.com, ccbill22.com billbycc.com, ccbilling.com, cc22bill.com and joinnowcc.com are active. next week, they get replaced with new ones. The new ones would always be the best to use because the toolbar people won't have them. Switch them often enough, and the toolbar guys will get tired. A similar thing could be done with the click counting. Instead of a long CCBill link, that could be replaced with simple code that goes on the domain of the paysite, which in turn triggers the count with the affiliate code. So instead of the long ccbill link, your link would be (and always be: www.paysite.com?9233745 (whatever your affiliate code is) and that system would translate it and push it through the most recent ccbill active domain for clicks. With a rotating list of about 200 or 300 domains, and new ones added from time to time, it would be pretty hard for the toolbar guys to keep up. With the system in place, all join hits could easily be sent to another domain within minutes, and in fact that domain could be different for every join request. It would be extremely hard (if not impossible) for Zango to trigger, example, in that circumstance, and it would require people to bid on all 200 or 300 domains to have a hope. Then you drop all those domains and replace them and they are fucked again. When it becomes too much work for them to attack you, they will move on to something easier. NATS has the same problem with their default structure, which makes it very easy to trigger on the join pages. With one buy at Zango, I could pop a join page for another site over every single default install NATS site out there right now. Why do you think your sales are evaporating, even as the traffic stays strong or increases?