Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

as i've said time and time again... politics IS hypocrisy. its about interests. nothing more. i'm not trying to argue against hypocrisy. it would seem that would be incredibly clear by now.

however, you are talking about a time well before afghanistan had become the safe-harbor and breeding ground for terrorism that it was at the time of the invasion and a completely different world.

i understand fully the argument that the US goes WAAAAAAY overboard with the 300 year old "i have a dream" speeches about freedom and democracy when it comes to achieving political objectives. however, that doesn't change the reality on the ground in pakistan today.

its simple... you shun them.... or try to embrace them when they have a willingness to reach out, establish relationships and try in some way to become a part of the global community.

the funny thing about all the comments here is that I am not defending bush. i think he's an idiot. i am not defending US policy. it is what it is. i am not defending any sense of right, wrong or what i percieve to be right or wrong.

i am just saying its all about interests.... end of story. interests shift and change based on the reality on the ground at any given moment. and of course, people keep telling me the same shit which i am basically agreeing with as if i'm being taught some lesson in politics.