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Old 10-20-2007, 04:41 PM  
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The real science will ultimately show that life on earth was formed in a pool of genetic material where nucleic acid formed DNA fragments that randomly joined with other fragments to form "sets" of more complicated material that could no longer pick up new fragments unless it matched with something that was equally complex. This would be the separation of species at this stage as the complex fragments could no longer conjoin with dissimilar fragments. This finally became the DNA sequences that formed life as we know it.
The final DNA sequence for humans was formed and completed in that pool
and it never evolved from that point on.
Nope, I think you misunderstand evolution. Our bases mutate every second of every day. The cell mostly corrects these mutations, but quite a lot get through, because they are silent (ie they are silent mutations) or they are in a mutation hotspot (a region of DNA where the repair machinery is less eficient than others). This mutation can have advantageous effects (+ve personal gain), deleterious effects (lifespan shortening/inherited nastiness), or neither gain, nor advantage (single nucleotide polymorphisms - SNPs). SNPs account for the vast majority. +ve personal gain is extremely rare, but does exist, for example a particular mutation in the p53 gene which somehow make you more immune from cancer that ?normal? people ? a feature of knockin gene therapy that is hotly researched. The vast majority of evolutionary advantageas are a build-up of SNPs, which eventually create a protein with de novo function.

This takes many thousands of years and it is subtle in its phenotype. As such, you can?t ?see? evolution happening.

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This still leaves room for the human to "grow" in stages of form. However, each growth stage would still have the full human DNA and primates don't have that, so even if humans evolved in form, the primate is still excluded.
The "missing link" is missing because it never existed.
No ? absolutely not. The missing link can quite clearly be see in analyzing the genetic material, and it can be seen how the genetic material ?evolved? ? you have clearly never looked into developmental genetics.

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The reason that primates are similar to humans is because they were in the same pool but had a slightly different random gathering of genetic material.
Random gathering? Gene clusters exist for a reason ? because gene clustering is essential. Take the classic example of the Hox genes ? those that say your head is your head and not in your ass. They specify body pattern plan, and are clustered according to their expression profile ? those at the ?head? of the geome are expressed in the head, those in the ?tail? are expressed in your feet. Per chance??

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It is noteworthy that the single cell organism known as the Amoeba has 200 times the complexity in it's genetic structure than humans. Yet no one would claim that it "out evolved us". This would tend to refute any assumption that the complexity of ones genetic structure could determine superiority.
Noooooope ? having 200x more genetic material than us does not make an amoeba 200x more complex than us. Expression my dear friend is what it?s all about. And of course non-encoding expression. Ever heard of ?junk DNA? ? look it up in wikipedia ;)
Humans are ?more complex? than a fruit fly in your estimation, yet when it comes down to it, we are very very scarily similar. Yet we run, and they fly. We run porn sites, and they lay eggs in bananas. And so what?s your point? Genetic ?complexity? isn?t what dictates ?superiority? ? it?s how your cells use that information ? the entire raison d?etre of the proteome.

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If Neanderthal man had a life expectancy of 200,000 years then he too would have eventually created a computer. But almost no one will accept that because it is damaging to our ego.
Nah ? that?s outside the realm of evolutionary biology and more into the mathematics of monkeys? With enough monkeys, anything is possible.
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