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dig420 · 10-10-2007, 12:56 PM

Rand, there are too many affiliated websites ;) Also what if someone uses you second in their cascading rotation?

"Also, keep this in mind. What about your clients that use your service. Just because they "claim" to not allow people to target your signup page, they still continue to allow people to target your client's sites. All they do is hijack the traffic further upsetream. It diutes the value of the traffic and they sell it for less and make less but they still take it from you and your clients. You still lose transactions so you make less money and your client still gets screwed."

This is the heart of the matter right here, and it's really not fair of us to hope that Epoch or CCbill will go to war against these guys. They have a company to run and have to watch the bottom line just like everyone else. Here's something Epoch, CCBill or some company with a lot of pull and the means to contact damn near every webmaster in the biz with one email COULD do: Start a litigation fund.

I would be happy to throw in 5 or 10k towards a kitty to hire lawyers to drive Zango completely out of business, with hopefully enough left over to take on the next company that acts in an exploitative manner ie Acacia or one of our adult webmaster buddies who tries to patent "using an image on an html page" or some such bullshit. I think it's doable and practical. A REAL trade industry group with REAL teeth.

10-10-2007, 12:56 PM
dig420 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 9,240	Rand, there are too many affiliated websites ;) Also what if someone uses you second in their cascading rotation? "Also, keep this in mind. What about your clients that use your service. Just because they "claim" to not allow people to target your signup page, they still continue to allow people to target your client's sites. All they do is hijack the traffic further upsetream. It diutes the value of the traffic and they sell it for less and make less but they still take it from you and your clients. You still lose transactions so you make less money and your client still gets screwed." This is the heart of the matter right here, and it's really not fair of us to hope that Epoch or CCbill will go to war against these guys. They have a company to run and have to watch the bottom line just like everyone else. Here's something Epoch, CCBill or some company with a lot of pull and the means to contact damn near every webmaster in the biz with one email COULD do: Start a litigation fund. I would be happy to throw in 5 or 10k towards a kitty to hire lawyers to drive Zango completely out of business, with hopefully enough left over to take on the next company that acts in an exploitative manner ie Acacia or one of our adult webmaster buddies who tries to patent "using an image on an html page" or some such bullshit. I think it's doable and practical. A REAL trade industry group with REAL teeth.