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Old 10-05-2007, 07:40 AM  
gideongallery
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Originally Posted by Kevin-SFBucks View Post
Oh please... this is like saying you go after the drug dealer and not the whole network that brings the drugs... after all, the farmers are just working with the innocuous cocoa leaf, the chemicals they use are intended for other legal purposes until they use them illegally.

When they have enough user examples and they have percentages high enough, they show that kazaa, just like all other sharing protocols, does not do anything to dissuade copyright infringement in the slightest. Which in turn makes it guilty as an accessory and negligence.

If you are aware of the crime in your house, yet you do nothing to stop it, you may as well just sign up to work for the criminals.

I still think your TV example is walking the line. You recording somethign for your own viewing later is the logic of the law... sharing it with others via mass distribution is never how it was intended. At that point, you have made yourself and the distribution channel a network. There is no way it was ever intended to work in that manner. You also didn't buy the right to the TV show, you bought the right to view the show when it was delivered via the cable network. Re-distribution is logically outside of those lines.
you keep making arguments without facts about how wrong i am without producing facts. you keep arguing that when fair use and your commercial rights collide fair use lose even though in every case when that has happened fair use has trumped those commercial rights.


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BTW torrents don't need trackers to share files i suggest you look up DHT.
since the torrent file does not contain any copyright material and doesn't contain any trade secrets should it be protected by the copyright laws as well
I can write books telling people how to do illegal things( like making bombs), i can write software that can potentially be used to do illegal things(like cracking dvd encryption). All of those are protected by both copyright law and first ammendment rights. If your right and your copyright allows control of distribution of your work, doesn't the torrent creator have the same right to protect his copyright.

Wouldn't you be violating his copyright to protect your own WHEN YOU CAN PERFECTLY PROTECT YOUR COPYRIGHT by going after the SEEDERS DIRECTLY.

Your arguement about how strong your copyright protection is flawed because you seem to want to ignore "fair use" the problem is even if i seed the point (which i am only doing to make the point because your assessment about the lack of power of "fair use" is dead wrong) then the .torrent file should be entitled to the same incontrovertible protection as well.


your arguement is flawed because if you are correct about how perfect your protection is targeting the .torrent files is violation of their copyright

And if you are wrong it then "fair use" prevents you from targeting the .torrent file as well.
i suggest you answer my question from the other thread before you spout off again about how absolute your commerical rights are under the copyright act.
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