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Originally Posted by jeffrey
Ak's will always shoot, just dont try and hit something smaller then a barn door.
The power of the round is great, but its accuracy is shit, I was trying to hit a 4x8 peice of plywood at 100 yards, took almost 30 rounds befor I hit it. Now this wasn't a new AK, but it would be typical of what you would find over in the sandbox.
7.62x54 is an ok round as is the 7.62x39, both are cheap and make a loud bang, but I wouldnt pick either to hunt with or to shoot competition with.
For long guns I like my 22-250, and my 338 lupa.
Although for hunting I would probably go 300 win mag or the never go wrong round of the 30-06.
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yeah both very cheap rounds... I find I am better with the ak over my others... we shoot coleman propane tanks all day long first shot (lantern gas tanks)
I love the ak here are some stats
>> 7000 elevation, absolute drop (identical sight over bore)
_Bullet_ _BC_ _MV_ 0 100 200 300 400 500 600 | YARDS
M855 0.324 3100 > -2.60 0.00 -1.64 -8.25 -20.73 -40.18 -67.97 | drop (inches)
XM193 0.243 3254 > -2.60 0.00 -1.45 -7.91 -20.62 -41.25 -72.00 | drop (inches)
115H 0.340 2650 > -2.60 -0.00 -3.21 -13.27 -31.44 -59.28 -98.71 | drop (inches)
7.62x39 Fed 0.289 2300 > -2.60 -0.00 -5.45 -20.81 -48.43 -91.27 -152.96 | drop (inches)
>> Wind deflection, 10mph 90 degree
M855 0.324 3100 > 0.00 0.68 2.80 6.55 12.12 19.76 29.75 | wind (inches)
XM193 0.243 3254 > 0.00 0.86 3.58 8.49 15.94 26.41 40.45 | wind (inches)
115H 0.340 2650 > 0.00 0.80 3.33 7.80 14.48 23.63 35.57 | wind (inches)
7.62x39 Fed 0.289 2300 > 0.00 1.17 4.91 11.61 21.69 35.54 53.44 | wind (inches)
>> Drop rate inches per yard
M855 0.324 3100 > 0.05 0.01 -0.04 -0.09 -0.16 -0.23 -0.32 | drop per yard (inches)
XM193 0.243 3254 > 0.04 0.01 -0.04 -0.09 -0.16 -0.25 -0.37 | drop per yard (inches)
115H 0.340 2650 > 0.05 -0.00 -0.06 -0.14 -0.23 -0.33 -0.46 | drop per yard (inches)
7.62x39 Fed 0.289 2300 > 0.06 -0.01 -0.10 -0.21 -0.35 -0.52 -0.72 | drop per yard (inches)
You can see how 7.62x39 is not that bad at all over alot of rounds that are out for long guns
I am with you
for hunting I like ether of the following
3030, 30-06, 300mag....
now for sniping human beings the .308 is the round which is back to the 7.62x54 again
my SA socom .308 is a bad mutherfucker... im drillin cantalope at 1000 meters 1100 yds all day long cold bore and all....
lets also not forget a nice smaller round for smaller game as well... there are alot of great small rounds that put the hurtin on fox's, rabbits, ect ect....
heres a funny thoght ..
all barretts have the ability to shoot down a helicopter with out working to hard... and there sold to civilians.... God Bless America... at least they give everyone a fair chance LOLOL