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Old 09-28-2007, 06:25 AM  
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Thanks for the replies.

I get the impression that most affiliates wouldnt want to go the legal route. So maybe a website exposing them would be a good way to go.
I don't advertise programs I suspect of shaving, but in general, yes, I'd go the legal route if they aren't located in some third world country with shitty legal system. We already had a site like this in the good old PPC times, Serge's GBU (The good, the bad and the ugly)

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If I did this, then I think it would be best to only show stats (not post comments like "this sponsor is shit") - so if I developed a site which allowed webmasters to post "suspect" stats of a sponsor - then if the sponsor is shaving or not - at least we would all know that the program is shit anyway.
Additionally the test signups results would be posted aswell.
Yay, good idea, but be prepared for legal threats, the cheaters won't just sit and watch.

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The best kind of stats for this I think are the ones which show a sudden drop in conversions, even though the traffic volumes are the same (or greater) and the traffic sources are the same.
You'd need to reveal the traffic sources and track all traffic on your side as well to proof that it it's the same traffic, or they'd claim you sent SE traffic and are now sending 404 traffic.

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Would any affiliates here use such a site to determine who not to promote? As at the end of the day - ridding the industry of both shit performing sponsors AND shaving thieves is the overall objective.
Yes, I'd use a site like this, depending on the accuracy and ammount of the data.

Summary: Great idea, you'd certainly get support and data from affiliates, but be aware that reactions from the programs listed there won't be positive, so have a lawyer ready to avoid getting burned.
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