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Old 09-16-2007, 07:15 PM  
Tempest
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Originally Posted by RawAlex View Post
Tempest, again... if there is enough free porn out there, your collectors won't be watching your 1 minute clip, they will be off downloading stuff off of the tube and torrent sites and completely ignoring your sales pitch.

They will only spend money if you have something they cannot get elsewhere for free easily. If the torrent and tube sites are continuously raiding your content, then they will be the source for all your content for free.

You also make an assumption that end users are computer savvy. Most of them are not. They don't know how to make a video loop. They don't know how to join videos (or make a playlist in WMP) and many of them don't even know how to right click and save as. Anyone who is a serious enough porn collector to know how to do all of these things has long since learned NOT TO PAY FOR PORN.

At some point, you make the very product your are trying to sell valueless. When that happens, there won't be anything to sell. Then what?
I don't disagree about the problem of full videos being available out there. That's a serious issue and needs to be dealt with. We don't disagree with that.

But as for the rest of your assumptions, especially about "most" porn surfers not being savvy, you're absolutely wrong.. Most of what you've said was true at one point, but it's not as much today and becoming even less as each day passes. For "casual" porn surfers, it's still somewhat true but even that percentage has decreased and those are becoming less and less as well. How many guys are entered college this year and have a laptop compared to 5 years ago? Even the "newbies" which used to be the bread and butter of "throw anything at them and they'll buy" marketing techniques are more savvy than they used to be. This is where the "adapt" or die comes in.

Again.. You're statement that "serious" porn surfers don't buy is blatently false. If it was true, then bookmarkers on my sites wouldn't be buying membership to the porn sites I promote and I know they do. How do I know? Two reasons.. The first being that sites that have a good bookmark base earn more money for me than those that don't... In addition, whenever I start to promote a new site, I get a ton of sales. Those are from experienced surfers who know what's available and can recognise a new site and so want to get in and grab some "fresh" stuff they've never seen before. I've experienced this time and time again and so know it's very true. In addition, if "serious" porn surfers weren't willing to whip out their credit cards, I suspect that mailings to expired members wouldn't be as profitable as it was.. or that promoting other sites inside a pay site area wouldn't have the great ratios they tend to eperience. In order to "adapt" to this change, WMs need to stop with throwing shit at the wall to get a handfull of sales, and start to adjust their marketing strategies and products in order to make more sales from these types of surfers.

Oh.. and about the 10 minute NastyDollars clips.. I only looked at them once a couple months ago because I was wondering what the fuck they were doing as well. Of the ones I looked at, it appeared that they were giving away the first 10 minutes of the movie.. i.e. all the talking, set up, getting undressedm some cock sucking, ass rubbing, and then some fucking.. Basically, 10 minutes of getting the guy really into the movie and then not giving him enough to finish the job really. I'm still not sure it's a good idea, but it's inline what what I've been saying about using the content more intelligently in order to hook the more experienced surfers.
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