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Old 09-12-2007, 07:14 AM  
RawAlex
So Fucking Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
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There are roughly 30 million 'torrent guys' and you simply can't generalize in this way, there's too many of them! Ok, the guys that run the sites are more important than the 'other guys' but its called P2P for a reason, everyone plays an important part. You are dealing with a HUGE community so take care to think of the social elements to your 'battle' too.
There are any number of end users (pirate bay is after all a top 200 site on Alexa) but the actual number of torrent site owners is really frigging small, mostly because it is limited to people in jurisdictions that don't cooperate only copyright issues. The "friends" won't know or understand what is really going on, they are use to these sites going down and disappearing all the time, so they really won't be able to see a differnce at first, except that the sites won't come back up as quickly.

Realistically, few of us expect to "take down" torrent sites. I think that it is more about "get the porn off" and then they won't have to deal with us. The smart ones will pull the porn / block it / make it much harder to see and avoid the hassle.

The friends of torrent sites for the most part are also smart enough not to fuck with porn sites. There is no upside, no benefit. Hacking a pornsite won't get your name on CNN and won't get you any great coverage, and most porn people would have their sites re-established very quickly. Plus they would have to aim at some of the top sites to get any true exposure like a sex.com, xxx.com, etc.

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Yeah, when the status quo is maintained, things will run along at a sensible pace. Once you throw a spanner in, they get motivated. Think about the guy who uses 'Site X' and you shut it down and they jump on all the torrent forums and say "Site X is dead!! omfg!!! What shall I do??"

He gets a list of 10 other sites he never heard of before.
The point right now is that the general public, the normal everyday people are getting to the big torrent sites and stealing porn instead of buying it. Make those sites harder to find, make it harder for the people to get the porn for free, and they will be back paying.

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You simply cannot stop this so my suggestion is to make your own torrent sites with your own content, give it away and grab the advertising revenue that's dripping away before it's too late
The popular refrain of someone who runs a torrent sites, doesn't make any money producing content, and hasn't figured out that just giving the shit away endlessly will kill the buisness - plus guess what? Your bum buddies at places like AFF will start to pay you less and less for each signup until you are making nothing, and they are the ones making all the money, laughing their asses off to the bank while you take all the risks - and you left without a source for new content because the porn companies can't afford to produce it.

You aren't just biting the hand that feeds you, you are swallowing the whole arm. Your "grab what is left off the sinking ship" mentality is fucking idiotic and insanely short sighted. Your ideas are the last thing anyone around here needs.
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